Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

[deutch]

I have already expressed my views, but she remained NOT voices heard developers. We need to do that you can not put a claim if there is no trace of the crime of players from that village. Then everything will fall into place.

[Jalpha]

On the lime project, numbers may be a little rusty as it's been awhile since I've actually counted the lime I put on a field, but I believe that's enough lime to get four fields to at least 500% plenty (maybe 1000% I honestly can't remember). Which is five times the number of crops you would normally get. Cabbages give around four heads per 100% plenty.

So out of at least 80 cabbages the tribe is kind enough to offer you 12 of them. Leaving them with 68 cabbages to boost new alts to unreachable levels. What you may or may not be aware of is a recent interest being taken in Roanoke by the tribe, hence their lime project getting kickstarted on that server.

By all means trade the lime, but just be aware that in your gluttony you seal the fate of your server, and soon it will perish as Plymouth has.

[Snowpig]

In contrast to popular believes, posting newbie killings on the forum is frowned upon by new players.
This in it self is negative promotion of the Tribe.

In contrast to popular believes, visiting the forums just confirmed my decision to play on Plymouth, when I started to play Salem back in January. And at least for me there is one rule, which has proven to be correct throughout half a dozen MMOs:

The value of a beginning character is vastly overestimated.

If you stick to this rule and go playing a PvP game on a PvP server, then you should not become a source of a river of tears. If you don't, well, just QQ moar.

So, instead of QQ'ing about the Tribe or Plymouth being avoided by new players, just live with it or play on Plymouth, if you dare to

or, by paraphrasing some german proverb/ad slogan:

If Plymouth is too hard for you, then your are just too weak.

[RuneNL]

So, instead of QQ'ing about the Tribe or Plymouth being avoided by new players, just live with it or play on Plymouth, if you dare to

or, by paraphrasing some german proverb/ad slogan:

If Plymouth is too hard for you, then your are just too weak.

If I cant beat them, join them. ~Snowpig

Snowpig, you could do **** against the Tribe so you joined them.
Plus for your loyalty, minus for your "liquid courage".

The majority of gamers does not join a heavy build grind game to dominate others. So the majority will leave if they feel they are wasting their time.

There is no point explaining to a wolf he will run out of sheep if he keeps killing them off. So in the end, the wolves will starve off because the sheep are gone.

So much for a serious conversation about a subject the Tribe clearly does not want to have a serious conversation about. ~GG

Pointless subject, talking to a wall.

[Snowpig]

If I cant beat them, join them. ~Snowpig

Snowpig, you could do **** against the Tribe so you joined them.
Plus for your loyalty, minus for your "liquid courage".

The majority of gamers does not join a heavy build grind game to dominate others. So the majority will leave if they feel they are wasting their time.

very nice sum up and you just give the explanation yourself. Plus on that from me.

Yes, it is correct, that - looking at my full-time job (40 hours a week + 8.5 hours of travel per week) - and the tiny amount of my spare time, it is virtually impossible for me to do "**** against the Tribe". In addition to that, i do not have that much time to commit to a full-scaled defense of my claim, therefore - when choosing between Ply, JT and Roa and after reading all relevant threads in the forums, the "Pay the treaty"-deal sound most appealing for me.

I will not repeat the usual benefits of paying, only one observation:

When i was discovered/asked to pay the treaty by Gallient, back in March, my claim was about 1287m², which resulted in a monthly payment of 246s i had to face. I just made a list of my money generating activies and one thing clearly came out:

one field of cotton would yield about 8 to 9 harvests per month without the use of accelerating fertilizer (coal, turkey drop etc.) - just to take in account a worst case scenario (like a february) lets stay with 8 harvests.
each harvest yields a minimum of 0.5 cotton cloths (at low s&c or with bad luck)

Therefore each field generates 4 cotton cloths per month, which is a steady income of 60s if sold at the npc-stall.
Take 4 of them and you get 240s ...in the worst case scenario.

So i took a look at my 20 fields i had that time and suddenly the treaty payment became a piece of cake.

But ok, i live in Germany where you have 42% (soon 49%) max. income tax, 20% VAT and 53% tax on gasoline (which is added on the price prior the VAT)

[Roninsword]

The proof is in the pudding. Your failure of a tribe. Nobody wants to play with you, but I guess you got used to that when mommy didn't love you enough right

Destroying all your enemies is a far cry from having nobody want to play with you. The Tribe has grown from a handful of Braves against the 30+ Zergfests of GH, Russians Etc. To the most populated organization of Salem with dozens of Braves and probably close to 100 treaty payers now. Are players less active? Sure. But that has little to do with the Tribe. It has 5-15 Functioning Members of Society at all times while Roanoke and Jamestown have 2-4 justice keepers and 25-35 criminals at all times. I would take the 5-15 civilized players over the 30-50 criminals hands down.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Everyone knows you are super active band of 3-5 members with a 3-5 paying treaty base. period. The lying is getting old. "hundreds of treaty payers" "30+members"
please. 100% false.

[jwhitehorn]

I have already expressed my views, but she remained NOT voices heard developers. We need to do that you can not put a claim if there is no trace of the crime of players from that village. Then everything will fall into place.

Spoken like a true carebear.

Everyone knows you are super active band of 3-5 members with a 3-5 paying treaty base. period. The lying is getting old. "hundreds of treaty payers" "30+members"
please. 100% false.

Everybody knows nothing about the inner-workings of the Tribe. This is compounded because when I showcase some facts they are quickly disregarded. I could care less as it simply fortifies our position but anybody who thinks that they can do what the Tribe has done with 3-5 super active members is in for a surprise. The strength and backbone of the Tribe has always been the 20-50 semi-active members who all strive for the common good around their schedules. The flashy production and dominating videos are then the product of the super-active Braves who choose to capitalize on the teamwork provided by the majority of other Tribe Members.

Also go ahead and spawn an ALT on Plymouth and start running around. Every active claim you see has a 99% chance to be a Treaty payer. Start counting them up. 5 Players at any given time most likely represents about 120 active players. Approximately 100 of which are treaty payers.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Mushibag]

the 30+ Zergfests of GH

L. O. ***** L.

You still believe your own ***** about our numbers? We never had more than 10 active players, and that didn't even last very long. The majority of the time we had 6-7 active players in any given month.

[jwhitehorn]

L. O. ***** L.

You still believe your own ***** about our numbers? We never had more than 10 active players, and that didn't even last very long. The majority of the time we had 6-7 active players in any given month.

Nice try. We have a map given to us by one of your own showing the 33 plots and listing the 33 players that lived there. In fact there were most likely more as he even says on the right "Too many to list" when referencing the German wing.



The Zerg-City of GH which had "Too many members to list" by even their own citizens fell to half a dozen dedicated Braves. Since then our numbers have only grown.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Mushibag]

There is a reason that only 6 names are listed... And not even all 6 of those listed were active.

I do admit that we helped to perpetuate your ignorance regarding our numbers. However, I had assumed that you would, in your infinite wisdom, figure out the truth. Apparently I overestimated you, in this regard.