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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby jwhitehorn » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:43 am

Very fitting that you chose a meme that had the words "butthurt" in it. That is exactly how she felt. Literally.

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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby Jalpha » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:50 am

Okay, Thor, I am going to take a little time to point out some flaws in your perception of certain mechanics, in the nicest way possible.

In the beginning (or near enough) grinding pure crops was easy. Then it got made a little more difficult, but it was still easy after those first few % points (which was incredibly easy if you approached the mechanics correctly). The effort required to produce pure crops in those days was next to nothing, particularly in comparison to the purity grind today. In fact, more effort is now required to achieve a measly few percentage points of purity in an element than was once require to get seeds to 100% purity (or near enough).

As this is fact, it means that newer players have invested more effort into raising purity and yet they are forever behind characters which were produced with so little effort prior to the new mechanics implementation. By the by, you could do all elements, for all crops in the same timeframe.

The legacy humus will run out, you are correct, and chances are there will not be enough powerful players upon the expiration of that legacy humus to challenge the players who are already ahead as a result of mechanics which gave them an unfair advantage.

With no purity you will be working very hard to achieve 100+ biles (across the board) and I'm not sure that 150-200 is possible. That bile range would be possible with the top tier humus which is currently being produced. I can also assure you that worms will not raise purity by anything close to the figures you are quoting. You are looking at a minuscule improvement in humus, not doubling it. Not even close.

100% purity is still possible. 50% is achievable with effort, anything beyond that would rely on blind luck more than any other factor and would take an incalculable period of time.

If anything I've stated is unclear, or you disagree, I'm happy to explain further.
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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby Roninsword » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:50 am

jwhitehorn wrote:Very fitting that you chose a meme that had the words "butthurt" in it. That is exactly how she felt. Literally.

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Is the rumor true that you are actually native american? If so, simply connect the dots of native americans being descendants of asians...
we arrive at the 99.9% conclusion you have a small penis, and are in fact not "butthurting" anybody. Do you also drive a large truck? Compensating for something hmm? :lol:

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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby jwhitehorn » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:55 am

Jalpha wrote:Okay, Thor, I am going to take a little time to point out some flaws in your perception of certain mechanics, in the nicest way possible.

In the beginning (or near enough) grinding pure crops was easy. Then it got made a little more difficult, but it was still easy after those first few % points (which was incredibly easy if you approached the mechanics correctly). The effort required to produce pure crops in those days was next to nothing, particularly in comparison to the purity grind today. In fact, more effort is now required to achieve a measly few percentage points of purity in an element than was once require to get seeds to 100% purity (or near enough).

As this is fact, it means that newer players have invested more effort into raising purity and yet they are forever behind characters which were produced with so little effort prior to the new mechanics implementation. By the by, you could do all elements, for all crops in the same timeframe.

The legacy humus will run out, you are correct, and chances are there will not be enough powerful players upon the expiration of that legacy humus to challenge the players who are already ahead as a result of mechanics which gave them an unfair advantage.

With no purity you will be working very hard to achieve 100+ biles (across the board) and I'm not sure that 150-200 is possible. That bile range would be possible with the top tier humus which is currently being produced. I can also assure you that worms will not raise purity by anything close to the figures you are quoting. You are looking at a minuscule improvement in humus, not doubling it. Not even close.

100% purity is still possible. 50% is achievable with effort, anything beyond that would rely on blind luck more than any other factor and would take an incalculable period of time.

If anything I've stated is unclear, or you disagree, I'm happy to explain further.


This entire post is full of ****. Jalpha did not have 100% purity of all crops. In fact I would wager that he would be unable to show a screenshot of seeds of even (6) Crops @ 100%. It was a ton of work. WAY more work that it would take to make a character to 300 humours under todays system. Jalpha also has absolutely no clue about the tier'd system of food products today as referenced by the simple fact that he thinks 100 humours is "difficult" when there are 0% foods out there than give 150+ points by themselves. How hard is it to eat ONE food of something?

Thor is amazingly accurate in his assessment. Prior to the patch there was an opportunity for:

Salt Cereal
Mercury Cereal
Sulphur Cereal
Lead Cereal

Salt Cabbage
Mercury Cabbage
Sulphur Cabbage
Lead Cabbage

Salt Cotton
Mercury Cotton
Sulphur Cotton
Lead Cotton

Salt Pumpkin
Mercury Pumpkin
Sulphur Pumpkin
Lead Pumpkin

Salt Corn
Mercury Corn
Sulphur Corn
Lead Corn

No group, organization, or even SERVER was capable of putting in the THOUSANDS of hours it would have taken to achieve each type to 100%. As a result nobody has them all @ 100%. A true testament to the difficulty. Jalpha making claims otherwise is as silly as somebody a year from now talking about how easy it was for everybody to have a 100% mine of all element types. Possible... Sure. Practical? Absolutely not. Evidenced by the fact that nobody has done it.

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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby Jalpha » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:59 am

All your rage. I'm calling you out as a ***** artist, and a poor one at that. It is possible to raise some biles on impure foods to 150+, maybe 300 with luck and enough time, but it's not possible for all biles.

Purity was an easy grind. Especially compared to the mechanics in place now. Delude yourself all you wish but your attempts at misleading others are not apreciated.

Remember what I said earlier? Keep talking out your ass and pretty soon you will look like one...

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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby jwhitehorn » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:03 am

Jalpha wrote:All your rage. I'm calling you out as a ***** artist, and a poor one at that. It is possible to raise some biles on impure foods to 150+, maybe 300 with luck and enough time, but it's not possible for all biles.

Purity was an easy grind. Especially compared to the mechanics in place now. Delude yourself all you wish but your attempts at misleading others are not apreciated.

Remember what I said earlier? Keep talking out your ass and pretty soon you will look like one...


Feel free to show us all the 100% seeds you have and/or once had. Until then it is obvious that were unable to achieve 100% under the old system just as you are unable to compete under the new system as well. You do realize that a food that gives 150 to a bile requires only 3 of that food to hit 450 right? All biles can be achieved in the 200-400 range with infinitely less effort than grinding 100% seeds under the old system. Spoken from somebody who has done both.

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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby Jalpha » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:07 am

From someone who is still abusing legacy humus to make foods, I'm not taking anything you said seriously.

100% wasn't easy to produce reliably, but 90-99% was easy to produce reliably. Coming from someone who is and was more of a farmer than you will ever be :)
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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby jwhitehorn » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:10 am

Jalpha wrote:From someone who is still abusing legacy humus to make foods, I'm not taking anything you said seriously.

100% wasn't easy to produce reliably, but 90-99% was easy to produce reliably. Coming from someone who is and was more of a farmer than you will ever be :)


Nobody is arguing that 100% wasn't easily replicated under the old system once you had it. The very valid point that Thor presented is that it was much harder to ACHIEVE 100% crops to begin with. So much so that StaxJax @ Co. made thousands upon thousands of silver just selling 50-70% seeds to give people a head start. You keep talking about what a great farmer you were but as somebody who killed you and raided your bases multiple times you hardly had crops worth bragging about. Even today after having months to go scavenge other peoples seeds you cannot produce even 6 variants of 100% product. The true testament as to how rare they really are.

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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby Jalpha » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:16 am

jwhitehorn wrote:No group, organization, or even SERVER was capable of putting in the THOUSANDS of hours it would have taken to achieve each type to 100%. As a result nobody has them all @ 100%. A true testament to the difficulty. Jalpha making claims otherwise is as silly as somebody a year from now talking about how easy it was for everybody to have a 100% mine of all element types. Possible... Sure. Practical? Absolutely not. Evidenced by the fact that nobody has done it.


Nice ninja edit :lol:

I'll take some time to point out to you just how unnecessary it would have been to raise all crops to 100% (or near enough). Not for your benefit, but so others can understand you only needed high purity in a handful of crop/purity combinations to raise biles far beyond what is now possible. This was an unintended mechanic, which was abused, most notoriously by yourself.

jwhitehorn wrote:Nobody is arguing that 100% wasn't easily replicated under the old system once you had it. The very valid point that Thor presented is that it was much harder to ACHIEVE 100% crops to begin with. So much so that StaxJax @ Co. made thousands upon thousands of silver just selling 50-70% seeds to give people a head start. You keep talking about what a great farmer you were but as somebody who killed you and raided your bases multiple times you hardly had crops worth bragging about. Even today after having months to go scavenge other peoples seeds you cannot produce even 6 variants of 100% product. The true testament as to how rare they really are.


This comes back to the good old argument where you claimed you looted all the cupboards in the mine after i emptied them onto the ground, yet were unable to even tell me what was in them. We'll also return to the way you skillfully destroyed all the fields before they were ready to be harvested, and managed to kill neither my main, nor any of the altvaults being used.

I'd also like to point out to those who may be unaware that the tribe never did their own purity grind, instead they acquired pure seeds by raiding Gallows Hill, one of the few noteworthy events perpetrated by the tribe, yet tarred with the brush of malicious betrayal of the worst kind. So... You never did the purity grind because it was too hard (for you), and everything you have related to purity was taken from somebody else.

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But enough of your flirtatious advances, lets return to the topic at hand, how you have achieved nothing aside from the death of a server, and killed few players of substance but try to preen your damaged self esteem by murdering helpless noobs. I'd be proud too.
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Re: Hey Guys, I'm a max level rogue on World of Warcraft.

Postby jwhitehorn » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:23 am

Jalpha confirmed to have nothing of 100% purity despite playing for almost half a year prior to the purity nerf. Looks like Thor was very right.

Oh and BTW. He is proud that I only killed him and destroyed multiple bases of his but still believes I didn't loot the cupboards. LOL!

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