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Re: Immersion

Postby Potjeh » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:55 am

It's not that people with legacy humus have to eat 20% more food, it's that people with it max out at 20% higher humours. Which is quite significant at high levels, since HP rises linearly while damage doesn't.
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Re: Immersion

Postby jwhitehorn » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:58 am

Potjeh wrote:It's not that people with legacy humus have to eat 20% more food, it's that people with it max out at 20% higher humours.


And for those who have been paying attention 20% higher humours its not significant at higher levels. A 190 blood/yellow chief destroyed a 300-400 blood/yellow Judaism. That same Chief also destroyed Cloud-Dog who was more than 20% higher. The difference between 300 and 400 humours in raiding is literally (3) brazier volleys or an extra 24% damage on ONE brazier before running out (under full fire). Now factor in the added food that it takes to MAINTAIN those 20% higher humours when you take permanent drain while raiding and you will realize that the TIME in which a raider can maintain that 20% advantage is finite and/or additional time is constantly required to maintain the higher humours.

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Re: Immersion

Postby Binks » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:59 am

Darwoth wrote:this is ***** retarded, are we actually debating the value of experience vs no experience?


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I hate when people just want **** handed to them. Potjeh is one of those people. He's never really put much effort into this game. Than he ***** and cries when he gets **** on. He was online when we hit his base and didn't do anything to try and stop us. He just rolled over like a *****. Ever since he got steamrolled he's cried about the game being imbalanced, but note we hit him shortly after the purity change. Our characters were solely leveled up on the system he was apart of and didn't take advantage of. I mean it was soooo easy to get 100% crops right? Shouldn't you of been about 500ish humors? Can we get a wipe just on Potjeh character please. He also must also have way to many slotted snake skulls, please can we have diminishing returns on him, thanks.

Sorry, but we are good at the game because of hard work and dedication. This is the problem 98% of the community has. They don't put in the work to be competitive to those who are, and don't tell me you don't ***** have time to play the game that's not a valid excuse. Darwoth got to titan status by himself, and I'm sure he has a full time job and still is able to do it by himself. The best part about Salem is you don't have to do everything yourself. Get a group of people together and do something. Stop ***** running in circles on the forums crying for a wipe your not going to get.
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Re: Immersion

Postby Darwoth » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:59 am

Potjeh wrote:It's not that people with legacy humus have to eat 20% more food, it's that people with it max out at 20% higher humours. Which is quite significant at high levels, since HP rises linearly while damage doesn't.


that isnt really accurate, and even if it were in a permadeath game it really does not make a ***** since a character 80% as strong can certainly defeat one 20% stronger. and given the game is permadeath it only takes once to eliminate that character and all of the humus he consumed.
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Re: Immersion

Postby Potjeh » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:02 am

And you can kill an assault rifle wielder with a pistol in pretty much any FPS, so I guess there wouldn't be anything wrong with limiting one team to just pistols while letting the other have assault rifles?
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Re: Immersion

Postby Darwoth » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:03 am

Potjeh wrote:And you can kill an assault rifle wielder with a pistol in pretty much any FPS, so I guess there wouldn't be anything wrong with limiting one team to just pistols while letting the other have assault rifles?



i give up, i feel like i am talking to claeyt.

fyi an "assault rifle" (lol) is a lot more than 20% more effective than a handgun, several hundred percent more in fact.

so in order for your moronic analogy to make sense we would need to be comparing somewhere in the range of 1000 stat characters to 100 stat characters.
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Re: Immersion

Postby jwhitehorn » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:03 am

Potjeh wrote: since HP rises linearly while damage doesn't.


Damage done formula is a DIRECT result of Yellow bile drained if you examine the formula. Therefore, as your yellow goes up the amount of damage you are capable of doing goes up proportionately to the blood of your opponent. Not the amount of damage in a single stab mind you, but the amount of damage capable between your entire YB pool. If you are arguing a fight where somebody is getting one-shotted then it might matter but at the "max cap" you are talking about nobody is going to get 1-shotted and, therefore, the ratio to YB and blood will be unaffected by a 20% bump.

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Re: Immersion

Postby Thor » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:05 am

Pfft.
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Re: Immersion

Postby jwhitehorn » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:06 am

Potjeh wrote:And you can kill an assault rifle wielder with a pistol in pretty much any FPS, so I guess there wouldn't be anything wrong with limiting one team to just pistols while letting the other have assault rifles?


Played counter-strike lately? If your team loses over and over you can afford nothing but pistols and must play against their assault rifles. Its only when you best the team with assault rifles that you get a "win bonus" to your $$ and can afford assault rifles yourself. No different here. Until the factions who put in the time to gather the humus of the world are bested they will be holding it. Once somebody takes down a leading faction the humus will be theirs to use until its used up or the next person comes. Nothing wrong here except a lack of challengers to step up to the plate and do what must be done to take down the top dogs.

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Re: Immersion

Postby Dallane » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:08 am

jwhitehorn wrote:
Potjeh wrote:And you can kill an assault rifle wielder with a pistol in pretty much any FPS, so I guess there wouldn't be anything wrong with limiting one team to just pistols while letting the other have assault rifles?


Played counter-strike lately? If your team loses over and over you can afford nothing but pistols and must play against their assault rifles. Its only when you best the team with assault rifles that you get a "win bonus" to your $$ and can afford assault rifles yourself. No different here. Until the factions who put in the time to gather the humus of the world are bested they will be holding it. Once somebody takes down a leading faction the humus will be theirs to use until its used up or the next person comes. Nothing wrong here except a lack of challengers to step up to the plate and do what must be done to take down the top dogs.

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