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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby jwhitehorn » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:32 pm

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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby lachlaan » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:43 pm

See, I told that guy with the matrices that nobody would understand that stuff :P We have the modifiers for all the flours and pretty much all the meat, it should be easy to figure out any and all possible combinations, and has been for a month at least.
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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby DarkNacht » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:56 pm

florenso wrote:damn, the meat pies have a lot of recepies.
a deer/bear pie has other values than a bear/deer.
i don't know if it is worth looking in to, but there is definitely a big difference between them.

if you start doing this, we might need a bigger monitor. otherwise the picture would not fit.... ¦]

Its definitely worth looking into the values for mixed pies are significantly better than the values for single meat pies and if you mix them it the right order you will get even better results. I'm not sure if its worth making them all to test which is best, its much easier to just do the math.
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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby iotuegli » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:59 pm

meat pies better than cabbage cakes for BB ;)
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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby for » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:44 am

I tried the combinations with deer, bear and beaver. All are wheat based, the first meat is from the shreds, the second is the cut. I managed to make the bear ones at 1.00 purity, you can clearly see that they are better than with only one kind of meat.

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There are around 173 different meat pies, most of them useless, so I won't make them all.

Edit: Oh and they're better than cabbage cakes for bb while using less of the precious wheat. If you have enough meat I suggest using these. Make Windy Poohs with your cabbage.
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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby Thor » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:05 pm

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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby jwhitehorn » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:21 pm

What about turkeys?

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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby L33LEE » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:20 pm

Problem i see with meat pies is the dilution of the purity and the consumption speed.

Unless u find some nice purity sulphur bear spawns
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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby Delerium » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:15 am

I've been working on a spreadsheet recording stats on different combinations of ingredients and I offer it up in the form of a screenshot to you guys to take a look. As some previous posters have shown, deer + beaver gives really good black bile.

A few notes regarding this data:
1. Please note the multipliers, while not even, are all fairly close to one another. This makes the list a little inaccurate, but imho still within an acceptable range.
2. Order matters. Deer shreds + beaver cut does not provide the same stats as beaver shreds + deer cut.
3. At first glance, most people would think there is a simple way to "combine" stats of two pure meat pies, and come up with the stats of it's mixed pie. I'll admit there is a slight visible pattern there, but as far as I can tell, there's no simple math equation to calculate the mixed results. If anyone can come up with one, I'd be glad to hear it.

The stat order follows columns (humor types) not purity subtypes (salt, etc) Each letter in the stats represents either humor type or purity subtype.
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First Letter: B = Blood, P = Phlegm, Y = Yellow Bile, K = Black Bile
Second Letter: S = Salt, M = Mercury, P = Sulphur, L = Lead
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(click the picture for the full version. For some reason on my screen the forum clips off the last columns.)

PS. Mushroom pies don't have the same stat boosting feature by combining different types. If you combine two different mushroom types, it seems to lose it's focus and just becomes a generic Mushroom pie with no ingredient listed.
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Re: Mighty (Humble) Meat Pie

Postby DarkNacht » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:22 am

Thank you for the data.
Delerium wrote:3. At first glance, most people would think there is a simple way to "combine" stats of two pure meat pies, and come up with the stats of it's mixed pie. I'll admit there is a slight visible pattern there, but as far as I can tell, there's no simple math equation to calculate the mixed results. If anyone can come up with one, I'd be glad to hear it.

Here is a thread discussing the math equation to calculate cooking results:
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