Immersion

[jwhitehorn]

Treaty? Politics? I haven't the foggiest. If you are that awkward murderous despot, then I must tell you I didn't read anything you wrote. That would convey some level of recognition to your supposed fictitious power, in other words, I purposely paid you no heed by not reading what you typed. Much in the same way that an adult might not pay attention to a child having a temper tantrum on the floor, if no one reacts to what you are doing, it is almost as if you didn't do anything. You put so much effort into your actions that day, following me all the way from Boston, your statements that were read by no one but yourself [you could have written all of that stuff in a notepad txt for all of its impact], creating your thread with the politics [again not read by me], as you see it, your tariffs and whatever else you think is important. The highest compliment I can pay someone like that is what I have done: to ignore all of it.

The only thing you did was alert me to the game's poor implementation schema. I like crafting in my MMOs and it would be interesting to see this, whatever it is, fall into the market successfully. So my message is more to the developers and less to you, but since you're here do yourself a favor and acquaint yourself with some history. Look up the games Shadowbane and Charr [good luck with the latter, it is completely gone]. I gave similar warning about the glaring flaws in their implementation on both during beta and early development. Shadowbane remained profitable for about a year or so and then not at all, declining to the state that it is now and that was during a time when the world was big, few MMO titles in great spans of time. The world is small now, very small, large number of MMO titles in a very short span of time, a now finite audience and not enough hours in the day.

Furthermore, where to you get off trying to "acquaint yourself with the politics of everything"? The metaphysical gonads on you must be as bulbous as the faces of mount Rushmore, a direct inverse to reality I am sure; otherwise there would be no need for this 'Chief PeePooKaka of the MM Tribe' lol. This is about control, and the methodology that you go about it in this venue leads me to believe that, again, there is a direct inverse in your personal reality. Since that is the case, I hope things get better for you, then so much of what counts as a 'good time,' for you, won't hing on making a bad time for others.

Here is what ultimately is going to happen if this game plays out in production the way it is in development. At some point whoever is running this thing, is going to look around and say, "I cannot keep running this thing at a loss." Then, some entity known for picking up poorly implemented titles, like SOE, will step in with an offer to buy the IP, low balled, but it is better than being the conductor on the train when we pull into the last stop, so they will accept. SOE, or the SOE-like entity, is going to bundle this with its Station Pass, or SOE-like equivalent. You're going to get new blood in the game, brand new blood... too much blood, and in an effort to maintain your 'Treaty' and 'politics' [btw, none of those guys are going to read that either] you're going to lash out, much like a petulant persona is prone to do.

Then one day you'll see a statement in the patch notes issued, from a SOE, or SOE-like, representative. It will be generalized, as they are prone; but you'll know it is addressing you and yours specifically. It will basically be telling you that your behavior is unacceptable and the game will be taking on structural changes that will not just prevent, but make such behavior virtually impossible, in an effort to appeal to a broader base of players. And for the first time in a long time you'll realize that the power you thought you had was only borrowed, usurped really. Your Treaty will be erased, your politics will be erase; it will be as if they, and subsequently you, never, ever, really existed. You're Welcome.

If only this would fit in a signature . You ignored me.. it got yourself killed. I'm confident you won't do it again next time and appreciate your cooperation in the matter.

This is like if somebody is getting pulled over by a cop and then puts their finger in their ears screaming "LALALALLALALAL I CANNOT HEAR YOU"... Nobody sheds a tear when the cop tazers that ******* just like nobody gave a **** when I killed you ...

P.S. If Jorb were to ever sell this IP I'll give you (1) guess on who is going to have the highest bid . DarkenBane Company is formed and ready to make sure that this project stays true to its roots.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

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Granted you didn't pick the best server, but it could have been the same on any other server. Personally I avoided death a few time by quick reflexes.
But besides that, this is a difficult game, with open PVP and permadeath, you should have at least read the beginners' guide! This sounds like you had no idea what you were doing and that got you killed. Sorry, my sympathy is low for this kind of whining.
On the other hand it may that this generation of gamers is used to be taken by the hand and be baby-sitted through a game. Gone are the days of complexity and difficulty of a game like nethack, modern games tend to be so linear, it's mind-numbing. So it could just be my point of view and you are in fact right.

[Gorvarchovic]

wtf are you talking about lol. Shadowbane is gone, closed, forever, and as far as I know there is only one project still truckin along to rebuild the servers from scratch. http://www.shadowbaneemulator.com

Way to prove the point by bumbling past it, the point is that Shadowbane is gone.

This game was also under the direction of Paradox, not SOE, but that is not the case any more. The developers, Seatribe, no longer have a publisher but are still partners with Paradox.

Reading comprehension, is not strong on you, moving along...

And its funny you should say that you ignored jwhitehorn akin to ignoring a toddler throwing a temper tantrum...and that is exactly what the developers will do to this thread. Your super serious posting is nothing but entertainment for the Salem community. Maybe if you would have read the forums like jwhitehorn told you to, you would already ***** know that. QQ more nublet, or gtfo.

This is entertaining to me, why would anyone bother otherwise? And no, outside of this thread my reading of this forum will be limited, especially anything that despot or the likes of him may have cobbled together.

This is like if somebody is getting pulled over by a cop and then puts their finger in their ears screaming "LALALALLALALAL I CANNOT HEAR YOU"... Nobody sheds a tear when the cop tazers that ******* just like nobody gave a **** when I killed you ...

I like how you gave yourself the position of police officer. True to form, your understanding of reality appears to be warped across the board. If a police officer tazed you during a routine traffic stop you would have a massive lawsuit against the department... Well I would, because I have those resources, you wouldn't, which is evident in your behavior here and the "real world" example you gave. That is the cool thing about the internet, anonymity, you never know who you are talking to.

However, our event is a sideline to the larger issue. Whatever genre of game this is, it will have competitors. Those competitors, along with this game, will have issues that they can either address or let stand. Ultima Online had issues. Everquest had issues. Blizzard took what worked well in those and other games in the genre and crafted World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft, despite its own issues, was far enough ahead on the curb, compared to the rest of the genre, to make itself king of Mt. St. Helen.

Now if the developers here want to remain, "true to form," they can have my silent golf clap, but the best this title can hope to achieve, with its standing issues, is king of the ant hill. Further, at some point, someone is going to take what works well here and all the games in this genre and make the WoW equivalent. This title and others in the same boat as it, will face the fate of Ultima Online and Everquest. Assumption is a terrible thing, because in the aftermath you find out that you are spelling out things that would have been good to know before hand. Best of luck Salem devs, with the "support group" you have clustered around you, you'll need all the luck you can muster.

[jwhitehorn]

Best of luck Salem devs, with the "support group" you have clustered around you, you'll need all the luck you can muster.

I agree that with ****** advice from people who fail as hard at the game as yourself it will be difficult for them to get accurate feedback. Luckily we remain confident in the developers abilities to recognize you as horrible inept and, therefore, not their target market. Have fun playing "WoW" that "perfected" upon UO and EQ... LOLOL

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Dallane]

Best of luck Salem devs, with the "support group" you have clustered around you, you'll need all the luck you can muster.

I agree that with ****** advice from people who fail as hard at the game as yourself it will be difficult for them to get accurate feedback. Luckily we remain confident in the developers abilities to recognize you as horrible inept and, therefore, not their target market. Have fun playing "WoW" that "perfected" upon UO and EQ... LOLOL

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Dynob4]

Like you I never once read the forums because, aint nobody got time for dat! I knew this was a permadeath game going in like you may have as well. I agree there are some things that really suck for a starting character. If you were not privy to the closed beta your behind. You didn't realize the game was in open beta because there is absolutely no advertisements about the game your behind. You keep getting capped by players with 1+ years experience your behind. Your going to go on deployment or something and are going to lose your claim anyway because you cant put money into your claim you lose everything and fall behind. When I mean behind I mean bent over in front...

Anyway I play this game because I cant stand the cookie cutter games like WoW. I like league but there are even more try hards on that game. Its a niche game. Its not for everyone but the few people who are looking for this kind of game. This game is not reality which I am sure you know. So many will nerd rage you. They will flaunt there mighty boom sticks in the air and proclaim supremacy, and they will have it.

If Plymouth wants to get a player base they should tell people about there politics in game. Give a choice, spare a life, then do as they do. I will say this not everyone plays a game to read. Not everyone has the same perceptions on how to do things. If you think someone should read before they play then that is a belief off of your life experiences and your conclusions on how a game should be played, not the relativity of the situation. If you don't care then that's your prerogative just a suggestion. That is the point of the game however; freedom to do as you please. Pilgrims are raging on the faces of other pilgrims, so bring a towel or a tissue because your gonna get other peoples happy endings and not your own.

[Dallane]

If Plymouth wants to get a player base they should tell people about there politics in game.

They do, people don't read.

[Dynob4]

I know they don't read. I don't even know how to do that fancy quote thingy either. I probably won't read how to do it for a while since I joined about 1 and a half months ago and am reading the forums for the first time ever today.

[Dallane]

I know they don't read. I don't even know how to do that fancy quote thingy either. I probably won't read how to do it for a while since I joined about 1 and a half months ago and am reading the forums for the first time ever today.

You have got to be the biggest ***** retard ever.

[Gorvarchovic]

I agree that with ****** advice from people who fail as hard at the game as yourself it will be difficult for them to get accurate feedback. Luckily we remain confident in the developers abilities to recognize you as horrible inept and, therefore, not their target market. Have fun playing "WoW" that "perfected" upon UO and EQ... LOLOL

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

I cannot tell how prominent the slope on your forehead is or if you are doing it on purpose, but you have a miraculous ability to straw man; I might as well give it a shot.

Dallane's nose is so far up your ass, the only thing it can see is the beginning of your sigmoid colon. I am not sure it is a real person, an alternate account, or some parrot you trained to work a mouse and peck out smiles on a keyboard; parrots can do some really interesting things when you train them, but I doubt you have the attention span or capacity for that. You two should meet in real life: rear some mediocre kids, set some mediocre goals, berate intelligence and monetary concerns while at the same time secretly coveting them: the general plight of the run of the mill idiot.

Now that that is done, time for some comparative history. The Spaniards came to the new world and were able to acquire quite a bit of gold from the indigenous people with little to no hassle, largely because the indigenous people did not place the same value on gold that the Spaniards, and subsequently the rest of the world, placed on it. Two different world views, unfortunately, only one of them can ultimately exist. Unfortunately for the indigenous people of the new world, might makes right and that gold got the Spaniards a lot of right. If the monetary and player base size achievements of World of Warcraft are laughable from your perspective, then there is nothing else left to say on the topic. Enjoy your time Tonto, enjoy your time.

I am going to remove this tab from my browser, won't be back, that way you can get the last word in. You seem like someone who needs the last word in anything, and with the amount of copious feces that seem to be pouring out of you in the form of dubious yes men on this thread, I am sure you'll make good use of it , in fact, I am going to go out on a limb and say you need it. That way you can all fart and sit around telling each other how much like roses it smells, and berate anyone who tells you that you are standing in ****... when you are actually standing in ****: mob intelligence is the best kind of intelligence. Of course I won't see it, so it will almost be, from my side of the commonality, like I got the last word in... perspective, perspective.

The video game market and the world view at large do not seem to be on the same vector as your's, and supposedly, the dev's. Could this game somehow workout and survive? Perhaps, but as it stands, with you heralding this community and the game's current implementation, not likely.

Deuces: a finger for each hand.

P.S. I never read your Treaty!