Badich's shop. Cheap and fast.

[APXEOLOG]

Badich is a good trader. Also as you can see all goods are without scents so you shouldn't worry about how he got it.

[Droj]

I'd like to remind everyone that raiders need to vend their wares. Killing and Stealing are perfectly legitimate ways to acquire items in this game. And furthermore, as a raider your trade reputation is of utmost importance if you want to actually profit off raids (most of what you get is food/curios and tools).

Criticism regarding moral character belongs in the HoB forums. The trade thread is solely for criticism or compliments with regards to their activities as traders.

Disagree with you there. If enough people catch on that this trader could be selling raided goods then they are less likely to repurchase their goods hence making raids for profit less viable in the trade world, making it only worthwile for personal gain. Whilst these actions maybe in the game that doesn't necessarily mean they are morally correct, its seems to affect ones reputation when it comes to trading.

Badich is a good trader. Also as you can see all goods are without scents so you shouldn't worry about how he got it.

He may be a good trader but that isn't an honest look at whether or not the goods in question were acquired legitimately. At the end if the day it's hardly worthwhile trying to scam people with stolen goods when it wasn't yours to lose in the first place.

The rules for the trade forum are not yet clear but as rightly said by another mod in another thread you are allowed to express your thoughts and opinions. Since the actions and goods pertained in this thread may be questionable creating another thread on this matter may not have the same credible impact on the traders reputation and the loss of trade generated from trying to sell said goods.

[MagicManICT]

The simple fact is that there is, and always will be, a black market. People use black markets all around the world every day. These black merchants have to be just as reliable if they want to keep on fencing their wares.

As far as the trade forum rules go, and all rules here, there's still a few that are being worked out. Fine; it was mentioned that badich might have acquired the goods through theft. An entire discussion about black markets and the merits of forum rules, etc., is something for another thread. It's a valid conversation, so if people feel it needs to continue, I'll be happy to split it off. I'm sure it'll get more attention at CuaH.

[APXEOLOG]

He may be a good trader but that isn't an honest look at whether or not the goods in question were acquired legitimately. At the end if the day it's hardly worthwhile trying to scam people with stolen goods when it wasn't yours to lose in the first place.

Completely disagree with you. Warrior is same profession as crafter, but crafter spend his time to get items by increasing quality (mostly in feature), increasing count of fields/other facilities, and warrior spend his time to increase biles and searching for food/loot. I agree that in current development stage warrior can get all goods simpler then crafter, but this will be changed i hope to a HnH-like managment.

There are lot's of tribes and civilisations in past whoose main "profession" was war (vikings, mongols etc) and they wasn't "bad". So please, let's think wise and not only from the one side of vision.

[staxjax]

If badich is a raider, so be it. It doesn't matter where he got his goods. The point is he is trying to sell stuff. There will be no more derailing of his trade thread.

[Badich]

upd. added some curio for selling

[bobanja]

If badich is a raider, so be it. It doesn't matter where he got his goods. The point is he is trying to sell stuff. There will be no more derailing of his trade thread.

Derailing?

As a complete newb here, and not caring one way or the other. It seems VERY VERY odd that moderators are jumping in on a thread because somebody mentioned the goods are from raids. Why is that not valid to talk about when somebody is offering wares? This is bizarre moderating if I've ever seen it. Moving something like this to another thread or discussion area seems to suggest everybody that visits these forums spends hours reading posts.

In what world (real or virtual) is it not on topic or legitimate to mention if a seller may have obtained items in a way you may dislike? It wouldn't affect my purchase of items, but it may affect somebody's decision.

Confused,
-Bobanja

[Droj]

upd. added some curio for selling

Nice, looks like your got some phat lewtz from your latest 'endeavour'.

[Badich]

I have some experience for not discussing such thing and dont waste time, all have been discussed many times. It will be again battle between two views where people dont come to agreement. As for me I just enjoy from your posts where you crying everywhere again and again instead to think how to defense your base (while there is such f*cking imbalanced defense). Its your choice. I dont mind that you continue butthurt here.

[Droj]

I have some experience for not discussing such thing and dont waste time, all have been discussed many times. It will be again battle between two views where people dont come to agreement. As for me I just enjoy from your posts where you crying everywhere again and again instead to think how to defense your base (while there is such f*cking imbalanced defense). Its your choice. I dont mind that you continue butthurt here.

No one is butthurt, crying or moaning about defences here, If anything you just confirmed everybody's suspicions. G'day!