Field Tweak

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Field Tweak

Postby colesie » Wed May 29, 2013 9:15 pm

Change the influence bar to 25% increase per harvest while making the drop on other bars slightly less and remove hay/lime buffs. Then, have plenty increase as you go up in tiers. Leave Coal speed for people who want to grind their fields hard but remove other bonuses.
You'll have to rotate your crops more often to keep the influence but you'll save on gathering hay and porting lime (which shouldn't even be a thing in the first place).
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Potjeh » Wed May 29, 2013 11:36 pm

Fertilizers aren't inherently bad, it's just that they're so spammable. I think an invariance penalty for fertilizers would do the trick. And yeah, we'd need better base influence to make it work right.
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Dallane » Thu May 30, 2013 12:24 am

So sick of collecting hay on top of spamming as many cereal fields as possible on top of collecting mass amounts of lime for mining and farming.
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Mereni » Thu May 30, 2013 12:53 am

Potjeh wrote:Fertilizers aren't inherently bad, it's just that they're so spammable. I think an invariance penalty for fertilizers would do the trick. And yeah, we'd need better base influence to make it work right.


Wouldn't an invariance penalty make it impossible to get tier 3 fields? Right now we have to spam a ton of hay over a few harvests, or even more hay to get the bar up in one harvest.
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Spazzmaticus » Thu May 30, 2013 7:43 am

Was this scissored from somewhere else? I feel as if I've already responded to it.

EDIT: Ah, there we are!

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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Droj » Thu May 30, 2013 9:52 am

hay spamming is no fun at all but is required if you want to get anywhere near t3 crops.
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby dageir » Thu May 30, 2013 1:18 pm

The hay spam is not very demanding. Farming is faster than picking grass. (When talking of time spent per hay for actual labour.)
Its very boring though and a sure way to get t3 ****. Maybe its too easy? Maybe it should require humus made from boiled witch hats collected at RL full moon?
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Pjotr84 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:21 pm

To some extent collecting hay has now become boring, because we have to do it ourselves now (due to low noob population selling hay) and because a recent patch made T3 fields even more useful. Suggesting to make raising influence on fields easier feels to me like battling symptoms instead of the affliction. If pop numbers were higher, this would be less of a problem, I think.
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby Scilly_guy » Thu May 30, 2013 3:36 pm

Droj wrote:hay spamming is no fun at all but is required if you want to get anywhere near t3 crops.

I just use a ton of humus, I have used hay before but its such a pain for me to collect it that I find it easier to kill deer and compost them.
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Re: Field Tweak

Postby martinuzz » Thu May 30, 2013 3:55 pm

For the first bar, I don't use hay, I just speedpush. Saves hay for the second bar.
For the second bar, I use 12 hay per field, and top off to 1000% with humus. It's not that hard. just spread out the humus throwing over 2 days, and you'll need half the bins.
I think it's fine the way it is.
Especially, since it's mostly a one time push. Once you get up there, you won't nearly need as many hay / humus anymore to keep it up there.
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