Balance Suggestions

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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby Potjeh » Mon May 06, 2013 3:19 pm

I think a more elegant solution to titans razing entire bases to the ground would be fiddling with the way braziers deal damage. So, rather than bbile increasing time on claim linearly, it could raise it asymptotically. Ie, introduce a reel-like debuff which makes you take more damage from braziers for every shot you took within the same crime debuff.
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby Dallane » Mon May 06, 2013 4:03 pm

Potjeh wrote:I think a more elegant solution to titans razing entire bases to the ground would be fiddling with the way braziers deal damage. So, rather than bbile increasing time on claim linearly, it could raise it asymptotically. Ie, introduce a reel-like debuff which makes you take more damage from braziers for every shot you took within the same crime debuff.


This is much more viable.

200 humors is still VERY easy to get.

I really do understand why you want these changes but at the end of the day it comes down to this. If you do not have the high humors when purity was broken then you will never get the new high humors with the new system while everyone else who puts time and effort into this game will. There is no stopping or changing that.

Yes there are alot of us with insane humors with the new system but going through and nurfing stats and basically spitting in the face of anyone who spent time in this game is just not a good idea for balance and will ultimately drive more people away and leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth. Eventually they will have no choice but to wipe once they are happy with the system. Until then we are forced to endure this issue.
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby MagicManICT » Mon May 06, 2013 4:54 pm

Dallane wrote:Yes there are alot of us with insane humors with the new system but going through and nurfing stats and basically spitting in the face of anyone who spent time in this game is just not a good idea for balance and will ultimately drive more people away and leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth.


Because abusing a broken mechanic during a beta period should be a reward? It's not the first time and it won't likely be the last time before the game sees the release date if the devs do something and wipes the excessively "large" characters off or puts them down to what is reachable under the current system. Just take it as a reasonable warning that it could come before the game goes live.

Truth of the matter is that nobody is going to risk losing those massive humors over random raiding. Just a few braziers will discourage them from coming at you as every point they lose will be one that can never be gotten back until food purity reaches high enough to glutton back up, that is assuming that high of a number can ever be reached again. Nothing like putting all that work in for a camp slave that's bound to the walls. That there is the mega-troll that the devs have inflicted upon the players. (Of course, if need arises, the titans could be set free on someone to smash and trash, but they would likely be titans no more.)
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby L33LEE » Mon May 06, 2013 4:58 pm

People forget that obliterating bases "should be possible" period.

People with the high biles who spend many hours "EARNING" the right to do so has had it taken from them basically. Even now, 20-30 braziers and 1 active defender who can stomp can basically stop any attack.

The nerf will balance out one day, and people who put the effort in will still be able to smash down your base.

That is all.
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby Dallane » Mon May 06, 2013 10:12 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
Dallane wrote:Yes there are alot of us with insane humors with the new system but going through and nurfing stats and basically spitting in the face of anyone who spent time in this game is just not a good idea for balance and will ultimately drive more people away and leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth.


Because abusing a broken mechanic during a beta period should be a reward? It's not the first time and it won't likely be the last time before the game sees the release date if the devs do something and wipes the excessively "large" characters off or puts them down to what is reachable under the current system. Just take it as a reasonable warning that it could come before the game goes live.

Truth of the matter is that nobody is going to risk losing those massive humors over random raiding. Just a few braziers will discourage them from coming at you as every point they lose will be one that can never be gotten back until food purity reaches high enough to glutton back up, that is assuming that high of a number can ever be reached again. Nothing like putting all that work in for a camp slave that's bound to the walls. That there is the mega-troll that the devs have inflicted upon the players. (Of course, if need arises, the titans could be set free on someone to smash and trash, but they would likely be titans no more.)


Broken or not are you saying that we did not put work into EARNING those humor levels? It still comes down to what I said before. If you didn't get to high humors on the old system(S) then you won't reach it at the new one and you STILL would not have a chance against a person more experienced then you.
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby Potjeh » Tue May 07, 2013 6:15 am

Yeah, and people who put in the same exact amount of effort now as you did then will get to about 1/3rd of your humours. Doesn't sound very fair to me.
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby dageir » Tue May 07, 2013 11:29 am

Right now it seems that people dare not use their "titans" because of the purity nerf. If they do raid, they run out of the good food. So in a sense it is balanced right now.
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby Potjeh » Tue May 07, 2013 11:41 am

Do you even read HoB?
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby dageir » Tue May 07, 2013 11:44 am

Yes. Did anything I said imply I didnt?
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Re: Balance Suggestions

Postby Potjeh » Tue May 07, 2013 11:45 am

You said people aren't using the titans, which is patently untrue. Or do you think CG used 100 humour alts to kill those CoD guys?
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