Misogyny in online gaming

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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby jorb » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:26 am

malaclypse wrote:For your god: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HaRdtU73Lo

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Seriously shocked if this is a real statement. I've talked to a lot of reactionaries in my day, but never one so extremist that they pined for the 'good old days of feudalism'.


In that case you need to consider who -- in the negative sense -- is the more religious of the two of us, because your own petty blasphemies do not touch nor disturb me in the slightest, whereas mine seem to disturb your own sense of the sacred quite a bit.

I win, you lose. ^^
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby Jalpha » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:29 am

Ghilliedhu wrote:
Jalpha wrote:Call it a union, a pairing, a brilliant, flying multicolored wheel of joy. No-one cares. Why does it have to be called marriage? Marriage is a christian term used for a christian tradition, and Christians don't generally condone homosexuality. Why the need to rub in their faces that you can trample their traditions and they can't stop you. It's unnecessary, and doesn't follow the right path toward conciliation, quite the opposite in fact.


Can't tell if you are trolling or just pants-on-head-retarded.

The institution of marriage, as well as the definition and meaning of the word completely predate christianity.

This is not even remotely up for debate.

You are either ignorant as ***** or just trolling.


If you can provide a source then I have learnt something today. I'd soon as not look uninformed when having this debate with others.

Seriously though, why does it matter if it gets called something other than marriage.

malaclypse wrote:How is that a clear misinterpretation? Its a direct quote from you. That whole post is a giant sack of irony. You're basically defending your bigotry by calling other people bigots for wanting equal rights. How silly can you really be?


Yes, therein lies the irony right?

Except for one thing, I'm not against gay partnerships or equal rights, I'm against forcing churches to change their beliefs to accommodate others. No-one should have the right to interfere in other peoples right to do what they want. Keep in mind this is only an example.

For the record, I don't even go to church.
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby malaclypse » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:30 am

jorb wrote:In that case you need to consider who -- in the negative sense -- is the more religious of the two of us, because your own petty blasphemies do not touch nor disturb me in the slightest, whereas mine seem to disturb your own sense of the sacred quite a bit.

I win, you lose. ^^


If you mean that I have empathy and can be shocked by the ignorance and white-supremacists ideals of others, then yes, I lose.

However, if we're measuring by the millenium in which our views are based, then my 3 beats your 1.
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby Ghilliedhu » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:31 am

jorb wrote:
malaclypse wrote:For your god: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HaRdtU73Lo

[...]

Seriously shocked if this is a real statement. I've talked to a lot of reactionaries in my day, but never one so extremist that they pined for the 'good old days of feudalism'.


In that case you need to consider who -- in the negative sense -- is the more religious of the two of us, because your own petty blasphemies do not touch nor disturb me in the slightest, whereas mine seem to disturb your own sense of the sacred quite a bit.

I win, you lose. ^^


Christian ideologies disturb everybody with a moral compass and a logically-inclined head on their shoulders.

I don't think anybody here is trying to disturb you, are clearly already disturbed enough.
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby ysbryd » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:32 am

Hah!
Theres a swine of an update and Jorb is trying to distract us!
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby Ghilliedhu » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:33 am

Jalpha wrote:If you can provide a source then I have learnt something today. I'd soon as not look uninformed when having this debate with others.

Seriously though, why does it matter if it gets called something other than marriage.


I'll spare you the embarrassment and let you do the required 2 minutes of google searching on your own time, kiddo.
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby malaclypse » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:34 am

Jalpha wrote:Except for one thing, I'm not against gay partnerships or equal rights, I'm against forcing churches to change their beliefs to accommodate others. No-one should have the right to interfere in other peoples right to do what they want. Keep in mind this is only an example.


Which is why I think most people who are for equality are trying to push for it with the legal system of the state, rather than the church. Noone is trying to change papal law. They're trying to change state law.

I hope christ-ians don't change their dogma so their destructive religion can speed its way into irrelevance sooner. In the meantime, please keep the god hate in the church, not in the courtrooms.
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby lachlaan » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:35 am

Edit:
ysbryd wrote:Hah!
Theres a swine of an update and Jorb is trying to distract us!
Sussed!


Lol, I hope you're wrong :P I'd much rather there be an amazing update and this his attemp to tone down our incoming assault of lurvz.
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby BubbaMKII » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:40 am

Jalpha wrote:If you can provide a source then I have learnt something today. I'd soon as not look uninformed when having this debate with others.


History of marriage

Anthropology
Monogamy, the predecessor of formal marriage, may have evolved as recently as 20,000 years ago.[13][14] There are estimates, based on sexual dimorphism, that place monogamy four million years ago.[15][clarification needed]
Myths and practices
While the institution of marriage pre-dates recorded history, many cultures have legends concerning the origins of marriage. The way in which a marriage is conducted and its rules and ramifications has changed over time, as has the institution itself, depending on the culture or demographic of the time.[16] Various cultures have had their own theories on the origin of marriage. One example may lie in a man's need for assurance as to paternity of his children. He might therefore be willing to pay a bride price or provide for a woman in exchange for exclusive sexual access.[4] Legitimacy is the consequence of this transaction rather than its motivation.


It's not very hard to find...

The thing is, you contradict yourself in that post.
Why can't it be called marriage?
"It's my word! You can't use it because you are a filthy homosexual!"
Is that it?
Seems rather silly and narrow minded to me.
But then, I don't care one bit how people want to live their lives because i am not part of it and it is none of my business.
You claim it's not nice to enforce your believes onto others, yet, there you go...
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Re: Misogyny in online gaming

Postby Jalpha » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:43 am

Ghilliedhu wrote:I'll spare you the embarrassment and let you to the required 2 minutes of google searching on your own time, kiddo.


Yeeeea, I'm not finding anything here hey. Nothing at all which states the term marriage was used prior to religious marriage. In any case the fact remains that no (notable) civilization in history has ever married any other than a man and a woman. Homosexual unions are a new thing, and should be given a new term. Otherwise we would end up arguing the definition of a word till sunset and I'm not into hair splitting.
malaclypse wrote:Which is why I think most people who are for equality are trying to push for it with the legal system of the state, rather than the church. Noone is trying to change papal law. They're trying to change state law.

I hope christ-ians don't change their dogma so their destructive religion can speed its way into irrelevance sooner. In the meantime, please keep the god hate in the church, not in the courtrooms.


It saddens me that you have such a distorted view of Christianity.

No, scratch that. It saddens me that Christianity brought that distorted view upon themselves :(
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