darnokpl wrote:bmjclark wrote:If this game stopped having updates for 2 months it would die. Haven has been without them for over a year and a half and it still has more players then this piece of **** game. For christ sake, this game has this jwhitehorn guy as a tough guy, just goes to show how many competent people actually play it.
But how many years haven was developed?
I believe haven development started 2007 or 2008, and was released 2009. Development stalled at around 2010 as Salem was in the works. So haven is about 3 years of development time + 3 stagnation years, Salem about 3 years of development. Salem also is backed by a publisher, has more developers than just 2 university students, and loftar and jorb had further experience with developing games when they started Salem than haven. I think it's fair to say, Salem had equal if not more development power behind it, and that development power isn't a fair excuse for why it's such a piece of ****.