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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby Gallient » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:56 pm

thl111 wrote:It is like listening to a psychoanalyst telling you a bedtime story and it's not even a happy ending one. So you people got massacred by the infamous Darworth. Stop whining, you're making yourselves a laughing stock for the whole forum. It's a game, keep it light and simple. I don't even bother to comment on the stuff vtomal said because, believe me, they are bollocks anyway. Now, man, read this and repeat it in your head 100 times : "game and real life are completely different" after that go check yourself in mirror and be amazed that you're still there and darworth didn't kill you because let's face it, if you were killed by him in RL, you wouldn't even be here to whine about you "morality" and Freud, God rest his weary soul.


WHAT! Is someone pretending they know something about psychology because they read a book in high school...

Forum warrior Gallient to the rescue....

Not sure if I can actually bother reading this thread to comment on it though...
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby thl111 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:07 pm

Gallient wrote:
thl111 wrote:It is like listening to a psychoanalyst telling you a bedtime story and it's not even a happy ending one. So you people got massacred by the infamous Darworth. Stop whining, you're making yourselves a laughing stock for the whole forum. It's a game, keep it light and simple. I don't even bother to comment on the stuff vtomal said because, believe me, they are bollocks anyway. Now, man, read this and repeat it in your head 100 times : "game and real life are completely different" after that go check yourself in mirror and be amazed that you're still there and darworth didn't kill you because let's face it, if you were killed by him in RL, you wouldn't even be here to whine about you "morality" and Freud, God rest his weary soul.


WHAT! Is someone pretending they know something about psychology because they read a book in high school...

Forum warrior Gallient to the rescue....

Not sure if I can actually bother reading this thread to comment on it though...


What are you talking about?
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby Sachaztan » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:19 pm

This thread should be stickied as a testament to humanity.
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby Vtomal » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:43 pm

thl111 wrote:
Gallient wrote:
thl111 wrote:It is like listening to a psychoanalyst telling you a bedtime story and it's not even a happy ending one. So you people got massacred by the infamous Darworth. Stop whining, you're making yourselves a laughing stock for the whole forum. It's a game, keep it light and simple. I don't even bother to comment on the stuff vtomal said because, believe me, they are bollocks anyway. Now, man, read this and repeat it in your head 100 times : "game and real life are completely different" after that go check yourself in mirror and be amazed that you're still there and darworth didn't kill you because let's face it, if you were killed by him in RL, you wouldn't even be here to whine about you "morality" and Freud, God rest his weary soul.


WHAT! Is someone pretending they know something about psychology because they read a book in high school...

Forum warrior Gallient to the rescue....

Not sure if I can actually bother reading this thread to comment on it though...


What are you talking about?


As i said, because the forums are crawling with people like you thl, i dont mind to be a laughingstock for anyone. Its same thing to go to a zoo and see the monkeys laughing and trowing poop at you, you dont mind because they are irrationale enough to make you feel pity for them.

And i dont see why a (social)game and the real life are completely different, since the people playing it are surprisingly enough real people, the "rules of game" are trying to be the closest to reality as possible, and the social traits estabilished are essencialy the same you can see on RL. So if Salem proposes the creation of a controled micro-cosmos, yes we can discuss about the moral implication of the acts perpretated in-game, since in my opinion our characters are extensions of ourselves and in the end you are trying to achieve or acr ingame (or on the forums) in the same way you wanted in real life if the conditions are right.
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby FutureForJames » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:55 pm

As i said, because the forums are crawling with people like you thl, i dont mind to be a laughingstock for anyone. Its same thing to go to a zoo and see the monkeys laughing and trowing poop at you, you dont mind because they are irrationale enough to make you feel pity for them.

And i dont see why a (social)game and the real life are completely different, since the people playing it are surprisingly enough real people, the "rules of game" are trying to be the closest to reality as possible, and the social traits estabilished are essencialy the same you can see on RL. So if Salem proposes the creation of a controled micro-cosmos, yes we can discuss about the moral implication of the acts perpretated in-game, since in my opinion our characters are extensions of ourselves and in the end you are trying to achieve or acr ingame (or on the forums) in the same way you wanted in real life if the conditions are right.


How do you explain that in certain servers, certain people went the raider path, but in other servers the very same people went the ranger path? If their ingame personas were truly extension of themselves, shouldn't that be impossible unless they have a dissociative identity disorder? Or does it perhaps mean that they actually treat the game like a game, much like an actor treats a role he plays as a part of a play/movie rather than an extension of themselves?
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby Gallient » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:00 pm

Vtomal wrote:As i said, because the forums are crawling with people like you thl, i dont mind to be a laughingstock for anyone. Its same thing to go to a zoo and see the monkeys laughing and trowing poop at you, you dont mind because they are irrationale enough to make you feel pity for them.ing s

And i dont see why a (social)game and the real life are completely different, since the people playing it are surprisingly enough real people, the "rules of game" are trying to be the closest to reality as possible, and the social traits estabilished are essencialy the same you can see on RL. So if Salem proposes the creation of a controled micro-cosmos, yes we can discuss about the moral implication of the acts perpretated in-game, since in my opinion our characters are extensions of ourselves and in the end you are trying to achieve or acr ingame (or on the forums) in the same way you wanted in real life if the conditions are right.


Controlled micro-cosmos...

this has to be a troll...

you've all been troll'd for several pages now.
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby Vtomal » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:09 pm

FutureForJames wrote:
As i said, because the forums are crawling with people like you thl, i dont mind to be a laughingstock for anyone. Its same thing to go to a zoo and see the monkeys laughing and trowing poop at you, you dont mind because they are irrationale enough to make you feel pity for them.

And i dont see why a (social)game and the real life are completely different, since the people playing it are surprisingly enough real people, the "rules of game" are trying to be the closest to reality as possible, and the social traits estabilished are essencialy the same you can see on RL. So if Salem proposes the creation of a controled micro-cosmos, yes we can discuss about the moral implication of the acts perpretated in-game, since in my opinion our characters are extensions of ourselves and in the end you are trying to achieve or acr ingame (or on the forums) in the same way you wanted in real life if the conditions are right.


How do you explain that in other servers, certain people went the raider path, but in yet another servers the very same people went the ranger path? If their ingame personas were truly extension of themselves, shouldn't that be impossible unless they have a dissociative identity disorder? Or does it perhaps mean that they actually treat the game like a game, much like an actor treats a role he plays as a part of a play/movie rather than an extension of themselves?


Very simple my dear james, people are not entirely ***** or saints. You can do rangeiring or mindless looting at the same character on the same server, maybe you are trying to compensate something, maybe you are just looking for some profit ( since i hardly call bounty hunting a serious "good" thing). Asking such a question makes you unaware of the situations who occour in the real life... Why a gangster would kill his rivals but protect their families? Why the drug dealers in slums across the world take peoples lifes trough addiction but help the population of their neighborhood? Even more, why a country can wage a war in another, killing millions of innocents, forcing a western ideology to a diferent culture, and even so talk about freedom and democracy?

It's a simple matter of facts, a good deed cant make us turn a blind eye for the bad ones. There isnt any dissociative disorder on this, just human behaviour. But if you are willing to do any harm for other human being, just for the spite of it, you cant call yourself righteous, good, or fair.
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby thl111 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:24 pm

As i said, because the forums are crawling with people like you thl, i dont mind to be a laughingstock for anyone. Its same thing to go to a zoo and see the monkeys laughing and trowing poop at you, you dont mind because they are irrationale enough to make you feel pity for them.

And i dont see why a (social)game and the real life are completely different, since the people playing it are surprisingly enough real people, the "rules of game" are trying to be the closest to reality as possible, and the social traits estabilished are essencialy the same you can see on RL. So if Salem proposes the creation of a controled micro-cosmos, yes we can discuss about the moral implication of the acts perpretated in-game, since in my opinion our characters are extensions of ourselves and in the end you are trying to achieve or acr ingame (or on the forums) in the same way you wanted in real life if the conditions are right.

Hmm, lemme think........and still you just don't make any valid point at all. Here's a wee hint.
go check yourself in mirror and be amazed that you're still there and darworth didn't kill you because let's face it, if you were killed by him in RL, you wouldn't even be here to whine about you "morality" and Freud

So, there. My point being you whining and dragging serious stuff in a somewhat "game", regardless of whatever you try to put it. If you really want to analyse human's behaviours , try "A tale in the desert". There are actually people doing researches in that game. Surely, Salem is a sort of "social" game but link it with RL is just lame. Salem is a survival game at heart, which means you try to survive and to do that, you hide, you keep yourself to yourself and that applies to groups as well. Imagine this, too, in real life, people don't just roam around razing building and killing everybody on sight. Trying to apply moral implication in Salem is like picking the poop the monkeys threw at you and throw back. Remember, games are for people to relax, to do what they can't in life and in the end, nobody is harmed, mentally or physically, unless the player takes it too serious and actually goes berserk on forums. To sum it up, it's an indulgence and we do it for fun. Just take it easy, fella.
And btw, low insult. Just uncalled for.
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Re: when founding a town of full of newbie thieves

Postby Vtomal » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:32 pm

thl111 wrote:And btw, low insult. Just uncalled for.


Not directed specifically for you, but for the argument "you are a laughinstock for every one in the forums" who has been posted a handfull times, nothing more than an Argumentum ad Hominem, instead of discuss the matter they just say"U MAD BRO?", "DELICIOUS TEARS", and such. Face it, most people here arent interested for anything that resembles a serious discussion.

Btw, i admit i had being a bit ad hominenish in the comparison, to any offended, im sorry.
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