Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Ornery » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:05 am

Hans_Lemurson wrote:3. Hmm...I hadn't considered putting whole pumpkins in. I'll need to check how much Humus that gives. Only 2 pumpkins need to be sliced to replant, but that's still a fair amount of slicing.


It gives +7.5 when composted, or 15 units on the compost meter.

Very interesting thread, btw.
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Hans_Lemurson » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:10 am

A sliced pumpkin also gives 7.5 Humus worth of material (the meter is percentage fill, or #hours worth of material), so there's no loss there. You apparently ONLY need to slice them for replanting.
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Yourgrandmother » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:26 am

Hans_Lemurson wrote:Also a question about your colewort comment: Are you eating the colewart directly, or as an ingredient in prepared food?


A 90% colewort (about the average mass growing cabbage with mid 90 seeds) with 6 leaves gives 18 regeneration per leaf for a total of ~108 regeneration per single colewort. Space efficient and time consuming not requiring cooking of any kind. Take it one step further, if you did pumpkin purity grinding properly you will have an abundance of T2 white cabbage fields. Each 90% White cabbage with 6 leaves gives 40 regeneration per leaf for a total of ~240 regeneration per white cabbage head.
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Hans_Lemurson » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:05 am

Ah, I see. High purity = Win. 8-)

I've updated the original post with some information about the compostability of unsliced pumpkins.
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Wournos » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:31 am

I like this thread.
So far I've been composting all excess seeds - alchemic specific purity in one and no purity in others, while only keeping about 4-5 turkeys (because they eat quite a lot) and feeding them their mates when needed. Cereal, colewort and pumpkin flesh have been used for food and cotton will bring in the silver.

I'll definitely "spam" pumpkin now.
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Potjeh » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:53 pm

I think you're overestimating the importance of high purity humus. Potted plants are far inferior to crops, and I wouldn't bother with anything but a bit of inspirationals (and trees ofc). And their purity is still capped at like 10% even with 100% pure humus. The main benefit of making high purity humus is that you get high purity pythons out of it, really.
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Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Kandarim » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:45 pm

In the light of the fact that apparently, not everyone knows about infinite lime, behold my pro paint skills:

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Step 0: locate a lime quarry.
The edge of a lime quarry will - schematically - look like the figure: lime and a normal dirt floor on roughly equal height.
Step 1: dig down the lime square right next to the dirt as far down as you can. The lime will now be lower than the dirt, including the corners adjacent to the dirt.
Step 2: dig up some dirt from elsewhere, and ctrl+rightclick the dirt onto the dirt square adjacent to the lime square you just dug on. The shared corners will rise as well, allowing you to dig the lime square once more.
Step 3: dig the lime, and head back to step 1
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby requiemhymn » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:58 pm

Kandarim wrote:In the light of the fact that apparently, not everyone knows about infinite lime, behold my pro paint skills:

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Step 0: locate a lime quarry.
The edge of a lime quarry will - schematically - look like the figure: lime and a normal dirt floor on roughly equal height.
Step 1: dig down the lime square right next to the dirt as far down as you can. The lime will now be lower than the dirt, including the corners adjacent to the dirt.
Step 2: dig up some dirt from elsewhere, and ctrl+rightclick the dirt onto the dirt square adjacent to the lime square you just dug on. The shared corners will rise as well, allowing you to dig the lime square once more.
Step 3: dig the lime, and head back to step 1


Sweet. Thanks for this info.
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Hans_Lemurson » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:04 pm

Oh-ho! Very nice indeed. My quarry hasn't gotten deep enough yet to test this out, but this means that the size of a Lime quarry does not matter.

Does this work the same in all directions, or just when lime is to the West or North?

Now if only Dirt were renewable...
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Re: Humus Farming: Calculations for a "Closed Loop Farm"

Postby Scilly_guy » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:39 pm

Nice thread, good work.
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