Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby jwhitehorn » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 am

eksu wrote:How does one go about joining GH and supporting the cause? :D


Due to disorganization and failed management you cannot. You can simply make them great gear for them to wear that the Tribe will inherit each time we kill them. This way you are essentially supporting both factions.

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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby colesie » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:06 am

eksu wrote:How does one go about joining GH and supporting the cause? :D

The best way to support GH is to buy from our stalls, trade with us and generally just be a decent person lol We're willing to answer the questions that you may have and to trade some goods to get you started normally. GH does not have one central base anymore, so a good way to help is by simply asking what you can do to help our small colonies grow and spread out. At the moment I'm in the process of expanding fields and the bakery in order to fill all of the orders I've been receiving, so clay and bricks are always a great help
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby Tjotjog » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:22 pm

I get it. The Tribe is essentially the mob, making people pay what amounts to "protection money" so they and their lands don't fall prey to an "accident".


Forget that.
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby Tylan » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:59 pm

Tjotjog wrote:I get it. The Tribe is essentially the mob, making people pay what amounts to "protection money" so they and their lands don't fall prey to an "accident".


Forget that.


Or the government, requesting taxation to ensure the safety of the participating community (proven time and again) and the continuation of public works projects (the Reservation). But yeah, forget that. Who needs taxes?
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby Tjotjog » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:16 pm

That is a ridiculous and specious argument and you know it. Sell it to the tourists, I ain't buyin' it.
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby trinh » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:27 pm

Tylan wrote:
Tjotjog wrote:I get it. The Tribe is essentially the mob, making people pay what amounts to "protection money" so they and their lands don't fall prey to an "accident".


Forget that.


Or the government, requesting taxation to ensure the safety of the participating community (proven time and again) and the continuation of public works projects (the Reservation). But yeah, forget that. Who needs taxes?


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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby Tylan » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:45 pm

Actually, in the history of society, government of any kind is rarely chosen by the people. And by rarely, one could technically say never. It's the illusion of choice that placates the masses into idleness. The argument could also be made that revolution never truly changes things, just shifts power.
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby Claeyt » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:57 pm

Tylan wrote:
Tjotjog wrote:I get it. The Tribe is essentially the mob, making people pay what amounts to "protection money" so they and their lands don't fall prey to an "accident".


Forget that.


Or the government, requesting taxation to ensure the safety of the participating community (proven time and again) and the continuation of public works projects (the Reservation). But yeah, forget that. Who needs taxes?


Of course they government doesn't threaten to kill you and destroy all of your things if you don't pay your taxes. They will fine you in excess of what you owe.

If the tribe took what they considered the treaty payment, plus say a hefty fee, but left you to live and keep most of your stuff, I think you'd have more payers. You could always do the same the next month. Since the Tribe kills you and takes anything they want if you miss a single treaty payment, many, many people are turned off by that.
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby dageir » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:25 pm

Tylan wrote:Actually, in the history of society, government of any kind is rarely chosen by the people. And by rarely, one could technically say never. It's the illusion of choice that placates the masses into idleness. The argument could also be made that revolution never truly changes things, just shifts power.



There may have been true democracies back in the days when people lived in small tribes where people got to vote over matters concerning the entire tribe.
This is the exception to the rule that "might is right." Most of the states excisting today is the result of warfare and established on the basis of who has the biggest gun.
The existing democracies of the day do allow you to vote, but as Tylan say it cant be compared to a true democracy. In order to have a real democracy the group cant be very big. In states there is too much bureocracy and middlemen to be able to call it "real" democracy.
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Re: Novice question re: Plymouth geopolitics

Postby Champie » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:55 pm

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