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huge Raiding issue

Postby ezdo7 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:06 am

So , i've gotten raided a couple of times by the same guy it seems.I used track select claim option and start to walk, i keep walking and walking till i hit the shore of the sea.

Turns out the guy is most likely teleporting himself to an alt claim meaning i have 0 chance of doing something about it and this is clearly completely broken, he can do whatever he wants and I and other people he raided will never find him.

So i would suggest something like:

-forbid players from teleporting to alt claims
-forbid players from teleporting to someone else claim with if their inventory isn't empty
-add the option to track the claim they originally teleported themselves too
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby Procne » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:26 am

What do you mean by "teleporting to alt claim"?
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby ezdo7 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:39 am

Procne wrote:What do you mean by "teleporting to alt claim"?

He creates a new character, asks to be teleported to the wilderness and starts to seek out other players, once he find some he then logs on his main character and raids them,once he is done he teleports back to his place i think which grants him complete immunity
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby Procne » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:45 am

I can't see any teleporting to alt claims here. He finds a target and walks to it with his main, raids and then ports back.
He had to walk to you, now you have to walk to him. That's what the tracking is about - finding criminal's hideout
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby ezdo7 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:49 am

Procne wrote:I can't see any teleporting to alt claims here. He finds a target and walks to it with his main, raids and then ports back.
He had to walk to you, now you have to walk to him. That's what the tracking is about - finding criminal's hideout

Exactly except i can't because he is ridiculously FAR away which means i will NEVER be able to find his claim and retaliate but he can keep teleproting to his alt character claim and coming to my base
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby Mienja » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:51 am

The trail probably ended at a shore means he may have taken a boat I'd say.
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby ezdo7 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:57 am

Mienja wrote:The trail probably ended at a shore means he may have taken a boat I'd say.

Except not, he stole a lot of worthless things, if he was indeed that far away then making around 3 trips to steal low inspirationals clay lime and i don't know what else would not be worthy.

He doesn't come walking, he ports to a claim steals and then ports out.
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby Procne » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:30 pm

No, he comes to your claim with an alt. Or the alt is already there waiting. He raids you with his main, moves goods outside the claim. When he's finished he makes lean-to for the alt near your camp and uses this alt to move the goods to Boston, where someone else (or another alt) picks them and takes to his camp. Then he walks with his main back to his camp. While moving goods quickly through Boston seems shady, there really is no good solution to this which wouldn't involve breaking normal trading. You could argue that you shouldn't be able to teleport to Boston with stolen goods, but I'm not sure devs would like the idea of raiders being unable to sell goods they stole.

There is no teleporting to someone else's claim here. You can only teleport between your own homestead and Boston.

As for tracking - it's fine. When you track criminal's homestead you are pointed to his current homestead, that is the one at which you can summon said criminal. There is nothing to fix here.
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby ezdo7 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:41 pm

Procne wrote:No, he comes to your claim with an alt. Or the alt is already there waiting. He raids you with his main, moves goods outside the claim. When he's finished he makes lean-to for the alt near your camp and uses this alt to move the goods to Boston, where someone else (or another alt) picks them and takes to his camp. Then he walks with his main back to his camp. While moving goods quickly through Boston seems shady, there really is no good solution to this which wouldn't involve breaking normal trading. You could argue that you shouldn't be able to teleport to Boston with stolen goods, but I'm not sure devs would like the idea of raiders being unable to sell goods they stole.

There is no teleporting to someone else's claim here. You can only teleport between your own homestead and Boston.

As for tracking - it's fine. When you track criminal's homestead you are pointed to his current homestead, that is the one at which you can summon said criminal. There is nothing to fix here.


The only thing that comes to my mind to fix this is that to be able to teleport to someone else's claim that claim needs to have an expensive building like an embassy or similar and the character who owns the claim certain high level skills and track not expiring after 10 charges but when the lead disappears from the place the crime was commited.

as for if someone wants to play with a friend scenario then you should have to write the password to port to your friends claim as the last step in character creation. Once done this you get a claim near his.
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Re: huge Raiding issue

Postby Mienja » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:19 pm

ezdo7 wrote:
Mienja wrote:The trail probably ended at a shore means he may have taken a boat I'd say.

Except not, he stole a lot of worthless things, if he was indeed that far away then making around 3 trips to steal low inspirationals clay lime and i don't know what else would not be worthy.

He doesn't come walking, he ports to a claim steals and then ports out.


For one thing you cannot port to town, your or any other homestead with a full inventory from out in the wilds and I doubt that he can fly since that isn't in the game either and the fact that the trail STOPS AT THE SHORE means he "probably" used a boat. At least if I was the one tracking that is what I would figure. And I from what I've been reading, takes at least three walls and braziers to even begin to slow down simple raiders, some who steal and wreck things just for the hek of it and some do it because they feel you are not bothering to properly protect your property.
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