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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby colesie » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:05 am

Mereni wrote:
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robert wrote:i would rather not spend a month making a 500 bile toon just to have it pked by a 5/5/5/5 toon lol would really make me question if i want to bother making a new one, if a brand new toon is just as powerful as a day/week/month/year old one without any work lol


I don't know why you keep saying that when its not true at all. Swords use to take half of the persons blood away and jorb fixed it after someone owned him. They aren't going to make a base toon be able to kill a advanced character.


It could be done though, in theory. You just need a lot of people. If a bunch of 5555 alts manage to get the big player surrounded, so that he can't move because their hit boxes are in the way, that's the end of it. He can kill them all but has to wait a half hour for the skeletons to be liftable, and during that time, anyone can shoot at him till he's dead. Of course, it means the big player has to be clumsy enough to get caught in the middle of a bunch of alts and have no friends to come help him, but it could happen.

If alt bodies were in the way a shot would stop at the bodies and not hit the person between them all. If there was indeed a space for the gun to shoot through, the person could run through it
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby Banok » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:07 pm

robert wrote:the day i see a 5/5/5/5 newb take down a 500/500/500/500 toon is the day i quit every and all sea-tribe games. and im sure jorb/lofter would quit deving...

cause that would mean the game is a WoW clone wanna-be.

never should a brand new toon beable to fight a seasoned vet on equal footing. thats a sign of poor balance in a pvp game. there would be no reason to grind biles if you could kill a bear at 5/5/5/5 stats or a "vet" player :/ may as well have a popup window when you first login on a new toon that says "CONGRATULATIONS YOU WON THE GAME"....

all the bile grinding im doing is for personal defense like those who started before me did. you arent given anything but the starting cloths kit in salam much like Haven and Hearth, you want to be able to fight "vets" then grind your biles its not as hard as you make it sound. without even learning farming you can easily get 20-30 biles if you understand what you are doing (like most vets learnt when they started).... if you cant do that, you are doing it wrong :/


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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby FearTheAmish » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:54 pm

robert wrote:the day i see a 5/5/5/5 newb take down a 500/500/500/500 toon is the day i quit every and all sea-tribe games. and im sure jorb/lofter would quit deving...

cause that would mean the game is a WoW clone wanna-be.

never should a brand new toon beable to fight a seasoned vet on equal footing. thats a sign of poor balance in a pvp game. there would be no reason to grind biles if you could kill a bear at 5/5/5/5 stats or a "vet" player :/ may as well have a popup window when you first login on a new toon that says "CONGRATULATIONS YOU WON THE GAME"....

all the bile grinding im doing is for personal defense like those who started before me did. you arent given anything but the starting cloths kit in salam much like Haven and Hearth, you want to be able to fight "vets" then grind your biles its not as hard as you make it sound. without even learning farming you can easily get 20-30 biles if you understand what you are doing (like most vets learnt when they started).... if you cant do that, you are doing it wrong :/


I really liked the EVE way that if you got enough of low level tacklers together YES! you could take out a cap or even a super cap, Would it take hours? yes. was it likely to happen? no. Did it happen? most definitely, but it took organization and skill and a lot of them died. Personally i think if you got enough 5/5/5/5's together with rifles and used them in concert it should kill a 500 bile char. But think about it, for it to kill with alpha damage alone it would take around 35 of them if every shot hit. Realistically it would take 40-50 of them. If you only had 15 it would take 3+ shots with a knowledgeable player able to dodge most of the shots i find it highly unlikely this would ever happen but it definitely is possible and i think it should be.
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby shaunsred » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:56 pm

petko wrote:
dageir wrote:Bad luck? I have played since november and nothing bad has happened to me, yet...


But if i would like to play a hazard game, I would try the stock market, go to a casino or play online poker.


So, you thought you could just play a permadeath game with no risk?
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby Dallane » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:57 pm

FearTheAmish wrote:
robert wrote:the day i see a 5/5/5/5 newb take down a 500/500/500/500 toon is the day i quit every and all sea-tribe games. and im sure jorb/lofter would quit deving...

cause that would mean the game is a WoW clone wanna-be.

never should a brand new toon beable to fight a seasoned vet on equal footing. thats a sign of poor balance in a pvp game. there would be no reason to grind biles if you could kill a bear at 5/5/5/5 stats or a "vet" player :/ may as well have a popup window when you first login on a new toon that says "CONGRATULATIONS YOU WON THE GAME"....

all the bile grinding im doing is for personal defense like those who started before me did. you arent given anything but the starting cloths kit in salam much like Haven and Hearth, you want to be able to fight "vets" then grind your biles its not as hard as you make it sound. without even learning farming you can easily get 20-30 biles if you understand what you are doing (like most vets learnt when they started).... if you cant do that, you are doing it wrong :/


I really liked the EVE way that if you got enough of low level tacklers together YES! you could take out a cap or even a super cap, Would it take hours? yes. was it likely to happen? no. Did it happen? most definitely, but it took organization and skill and a lot of them died. Personally i think if you got enough 5/5/5/5's together with rifles and used them in concert it should kill a 500 bile char. But think about it, for it to kill with alpha damage alone it would take around 35 of them if every shot hit. Realistically it would take 40-50 of them. If you only had 15 it would take 3+ shots with a knowledgeable player able to dodge most of the shots i find it highly unlikely this would ever happen but it definitely is possible and i think it should be.


That should never be possible for a bunch of new chars to kill a advanced one. Now if you take those chars and lvl them then yea that big char is going down.
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby FearTheAmish » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:11 pm

Dallane wrote:
FearTheAmish wrote:
robert wrote:the day i see a 5/5/5/5 newb take down a 500/500/500/500 toon is the day i quit every and all sea-tribe games. and im sure jorb/lofter would quit deving...

cause that would mean the game is a WoW clone wanna-be.

never should a brand new toon beable to fight a seasoned vet on equal footing. thats a sign of poor balance in a pvp game. there would be no reason to grind biles if you could kill a bear at 5/5/5/5 stats or a "vet" player :/ may as well have a popup window when you first login on a new toon that says "CONGRATULATIONS YOU WON THE GAME"....

all the bile grinding im doing is for personal defense like those who started before me did. you arent given anything but the starting cloths kit in salam much like Haven and Hearth, you want to be able to fight "vets" then grind your biles its not as hard as you make it sound. without even learning farming you can easily get 20-30 biles if you understand what you are doing (like most vets learnt when they started).... if you cant do that, you are doing it wrong :/


I really liked the EVE way that if you got enough of low level tacklers together YES! you could take out a cap or even a super cap, Would it take hours? yes. was it likely to happen? no. Did it happen? most definitely, but it took organization and skill and a lot of them died. Personally i think if you got enough 5/5/5/5's together with rifles and used them in concert it should kill a 500 bile char. But think about it, for it to kill with alpha damage alone it would take around 35 of them if every shot hit. Realistically it would take 40-50 of them. If you only had 15 it would take 3+ shots with a knowledgeable player able to dodge most of the shots i find it highly unlikely this would ever happen but it definitely is possible and i think it should be.


That should never be possible for a bunch of new chars to kill a advanced one. Now if you take those chars and lvl them then yea that big char is going down.


did you read the numbers required for it to happen? what are the chances of 35-50 chars all being able to hit a target. Possible yes likely... HELL NO!
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby Dallane » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:20 pm

FearTheAmish wrote:did you read the numbers required for it to happen? what are the chances of 35-50 chars all being able to hit a target. Possible yes likely... HELL NO!


Your lack of knowledge of this game is impressive
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby FearTheAmish » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:35 pm

Dallane wrote:
FearTheAmish wrote:did you read the numbers required for it to happen? what are the chances of 35-50 chars all being able to hit a target. Possible yes likely... HELL NO!


Your lack of knowledge of this game is impressive


really would you please elucidate me on were my knowledge is lacking? Because talking about Fire arms means you have a 1-2 second pause before firing so if you actually move properly you severely cut down your chances of being hit.
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby Mereni » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:55 pm

FearTheAmish wrote:
Dallane wrote:
FearTheAmish wrote:did you read the numbers required for it to happen? what are the chances of 35-50 chars all being able to hit a target. Possible yes likely... HELL NO!


Your lack of knowledge of this game is impressive


really would you please elucidate me on were my knowledge is lacking? Because talking about Fire arms means you have a 1-2 second pause before firing so if you actually move properly you severely cut down your chances of being hit.


It probably could be done in theory.... but since you need so many skill to get firearms, you're likely to be playing with characters of more than just 5555. Also, a high humor character can run away until their phlegm is gone, which will be a lot further than any low humor character can chase them. There would have to be some kind of intricate trap involved in preventing the character from running away since it seems you can't shoot over a dead body.
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Re: Bad experience, pointless game

Postby FearTheAmish » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:26 am

Mereni wrote:
FearTheAmish wrote:

It probably could be done in theory.... but since you need so many skill to get firearms, you're likely to be playing with characters of more than just 5555. Also, a high humor character can run away until their phlegm is gone, which will be a lot further than any low humor character can chase them. There would have to be some kind of intricate trap involved in preventing the character from running away since it seems you can't shoot over a dead body.


like i said it is Possible but not likely. remember you can get all combat skills and weapons up to and including firearms for 29.99$.
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