Bad experience, pointless game

[dageir]

With the firearms buffed, new players can take down seasoned veterans. They just need to plan and be numerous. How long is the loading time on the musket by the way?

[darnokpl]

With the firearms buffed, new players can take down seasoned veterans. They just need to plan and be numerous. How long is the loading time on the musket by the way?

Take gunpowder in "hand/cursor" right click on musket 2-3 sec load time, then same thing with bullets, but I load time is faster.
I was trying to make it few times, but I always failed to shoot, reload and shoot in 5 seconds time span, so imho you have single shot, then switch to sword and fight like it was before update. Would be nice if shot would slow down a little your opponent, so after hit you would have time to reload musket.

[dageir]

If you could bring along 10-20 friends (noobs) that all had guns 5-10 could stand in the front row and the rest in the back row firing in turns like they did in those glorious days.

[robert]

the day i see a 5/5/5/5 newb take down a 500/500/500/500 toon is the day i quit every and all sea-tribe games. and im sure jorb/lofter would quit deving...

cause that would mean the game is a WoW clone wanna-be.

never should a brand new toon beable to fight a seasoned vet on equal footing. thats a sign of poor balance in a pvp game. there would be no reason to grind biles if you could kill a bear at 5/5/5/5 stats or a "vet" player :/ may as well have a popup window when you first login on a new toon that says "CONGRATULATIONS YOU WON THE GAME"....

all the bile grinding im doing is for personal defense like those who started before me did. you arent given anything but the starting cloths kit in salam much like Haven and Hearth, you want to be able to fight "vets" then grind your biles its not as hard as you make it sound. without even learning farming you can easily get 20-30 biles if you understand what you are doing (like most vets learnt when they started).... if you cant do that, you are doing it wrong :/

[callanrocks]

EVE online is just a game I cant play with because its as fun as watching two flies *****. Sorry, but when I sit to the PC to play I want to have fun, and not to statisfy some kind of requirement of dominance and acceptance. And gameing should not be not some kind of place for mentally injured persons who try to substitute acceptance, because in RL they don't esteem themself. I'm a PC gamer and like playing.

One, EVE online is more interesting than this game about 40% of the time because 40% of this game is walking, at least EVE you are usually on vent with people at most times, either that or exploding stuff
Two, you are saying people are having bad wrong fun and that your fun is best good fun, you are wrong.
Three, there are different types of games so if you don't like it you don't have to play it, you especially don't have to whine on the forums about how bad it is, you can leave.
Four, Ad-Hominen arguments never got anyone anywhere besides being laughed at
Five, you are not a PC gamer, you are an entitled kiddie who thinks that everything you don't like should change, you are the worst thing out of your generation to ever use a computer, please, be quiet and stop acting like a baby

[MagicManICT]

the day i see a 5/5/5/5 newb take down a 500/500/500/500 toon is the day i quit every and all sea-tribe games. and im sure jorb/lofter would quit deving...

cause that would mean the game is a WoW clone wanna-be.

I could log on to my Lvl 90 PvP geared warrior right now and take on a heard of lvl 60s and not even sweat. You could probably bump that to 70 and maybe even 80. This is what WoW is. The flip side to that is something more akin to EVE. A swarm of newbie ships could easily take down the biggest, most expensive ship in the game given enough time and assuming friends didn't show up to protect it. Is it likely to happen? No, because people just don't bring these massive beasts out onto the field of battle without cause, and that cause is usually taking down massive numbers of other large ships, and this means a fleet war, and a fleet of newb ships is just a swarm of gnats in a situation like that.

Salem is somewhere in the middle. A swarm of 5 humored newb alts could, in theory take down a 500 humored character, but it will never actually happen unless there's some really good group coordination and the target is a complete noob. You know, that could make an interesting video and the devs should put a bounty out to see if it can be pulled off.

In my mind, it's not so much like the old Hong Kong action films where an unarmed martial artist can take out a dozen armed combatants, it's more like real life where Bruce Lee is facing an armed mob of hundreds or thousands that isn't concerned about their own health out to get him and there's nowhere to run. Sure, he might take out dozens before going down, but he's still going down eventually. (Why Bruce Lee? Cause we all know Chuck would just roundhouse kick the mob into submission )

[robert]

ROFL magicman the only man who beat norris was lee :3 lololol

but ya i agree a zerg should beable to with time beat an elephant (most south american/african ants do that) but that would effect game balance IMO and would really hurt the game's end game enjoyment if you are max level (for whatever salem deems 100% finished toon level is) and you are killed by a brand new 5/5/5/5 toon or group of them (i think thats why higher YB gives better damage effect other wise there would be a solid damage produced regardless of bile levels or max levels.)

though the fact remains the OP is basically complaining about being brand new with under 100 biles and unable to fight older "vet" toons who have over 100 biles.

i would rather not spend a month making a 500 bile toon just to have it pked by a 5/5/5/5 toon lol would really make me question if i want to bother making a new one, if a brand new toon is just as powerful as a day/week/month/year old one without any work lol

[Dallane]

i would rather not spend a month making a 500 bile toon just to have it pked by a 5/5/5/5 toon lol would really make me question if i want to bother making a new one, if a brand new toon is just as powerful as a day/week/month/year old one without any work lol

I don't know why you keep saying that when its not true at all. Swords use to take half of the persons blood away and jorb fixed it after someone owned him. They aren't going to make a base toon be able to kill a advanced character.

[Mereni]

i would rather not spend a month making a 500 bile toon just to have it pked by a 5/5/5/5 toon lol would really make me question if i want to bother making a new one, if a brand new toon is just as powerful as a day/week/month/year old one without any work lol

I don't know why you keep saying that when its not true at all. Swords use to take half of the persons blood away and jorb fixed it after someone owned him. They aren't going to make a base toon be able to kill a advanced character.

It could be done though, in theory. You just need a lot of people. If a bunch of 5555 alts manage to get the big player surrounded, so that he can't move because their hit boxes are in the way, that's the end of it. He can kill them all but has to wait a half hour for the skeletons to be liftable, and during that time, anyone can shoot at him till he's dead. Of course, it means the big player has to be clumsy enough to get caught in the middle of a bunch of alts and have no friends to come help him, but it could happen.

[Dallane]

i would rather not spend a month making a 500 bile toon just to have it pked by a 5/5/5/5 toon lol would really make me question if i want to bother making a new one, if a brand new toon is just as powerful as a day/week/month/year old one without any work lol

I don't know why you keep saying that when its not true at all. Swords use to take half of the persons blood away and jorb fixed it after someone owned him. They aren't going to make a base toon be able to kill a advanced character.

It could be done though, in theory. You just need a lot of people. If a bunch of 5555 alts manage to get the big player surrounded, so that he can't move because their hit boxes are in the way, that's the end of it. He can kill them all but has to wait a half hour for the skeletons to be liftable, and during that time, anyone can shoot at him till he's dead. Of course, it means the big player has to be clumsy enough to get caught in the middle of a bunch of alts and have no friends to come help him, but it could happen.