Stakes and Burning

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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:27 pm

Some people need to read up on their history better. As Jinx states, witch trials were rarely reasonable and levelheaded. Rabble rousing and mob rule were general the rule of thumb. The inquisition, on the other hand, usually was (for the most part) other than the whole point of it was an attempt at racial purging (or genocide for those that refused to convert or leave).

I think I know of which "witch burning" is being referred to. Those who haven't should download the fansite kit (found stickied in City upon a Hill) and check out some of the concept art. I believe it's in there.
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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby Mereni » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:30 am

MagicManICT wrote:Some people need to read up on their history better. As Jinx states, witch trials were rarely reasonable and levelheaded. Rabble rousing and mob rule were general the rule of thumb. The inquisition, on the other hand, usually was (for the most part) other than the whole point of it was an attempt at racial purging (or genocide for those that refused to convert or leave).

I think I know of which "witch burning" is being referred to. Those who haven't should download the fansite kit (found stickied in City upon a Hill) and check out some of the concept art. I believe it's in there.


I was only referring to the witch trials on New England, which were usually actual trials with evidence presented, and legal sentence passed whenever the suspected witch was found guilty, which wasn't every time.
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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby JinxDevona » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:41 am

Mereni wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:Some people need to read up on their history better. As Jinx states, witch trials were rarely reasonable and levelheaded. Rabble rousing and mob rule were general the rule of thumb. The inquisition, on the other hand, usually was (for the most part) other than the whole point of it was an attempt at racial purging (or genocide for those that refused to convert or leave).

I think I know of which "witch burning" is being referred to. Those who haven't should download the fansite kit (found stickied in City upon a Hill) and check out some of the concept art. I believe it's in there.


I was only referring to the witch trials on New England, which were usually actual trials with evidence presented, and legal sentence passed whenever the suspected witch was found guilty, which wasn't every time.

Yes because miscarriages, healing people, and cheating on your spouse were all reasonable and level headed evidence. Not to mention trials with no one defending the accused. (Stick a feather in it and call it macaroni)
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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:53 am

Let's not even bother mentioning that some evidence and speculation points at hallucinations as the biggest cause of "seeing witches."
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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby FearTheAmish » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:56 am

Mereni wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:Some people need to read up on their history better. As Jinx states, witch trials were rarely reasonable and levelheaded. Rabble rousing and mob rule were general the rule of thumb. The inquisition, on the other hand, usually was (for the most part) other than the whole point of it was an attempt at racial purging (or genocide for those that refused to convert or leave).

I think I know of which "witch burning" is being referred to. Those who haven't should download the fansite kit (found stickied in City upon a Hill) and check out some of the concept art. I believe it's in there.


I was only referring to the witch trials on New England, which were usually actual trials with evidence presented, and legal sentence passed whenever the suspected witch was found guilty, which wasn't every time.


Magic = Correct, Mereni = Incorrect. Those people that were found "not-guilty" usually were given that as a plea bargain for pointing the finger at others so kinda like this. Well we will let you go if you can make a list of other known witches. Which most did and because of the nature of the times outsiders and those that didn't fit in were picked. Then anything that happened in the village that was bad was blamed on them (crops failing, Storms, still born children, impotence, literally anything). Punishments of these trails ranged from hanging to being left in jail to rot.. and literally that is what happened you must remember that being jailed during this time was usually a death sentence a starvation diet and exposure usually caused people to die of diseases such as tuberculous, scarlet fever, and many other diseases. actually here is a quote from someone writing an account of the trails ""And now Nineteen persons having been hang'd, and one prest to death, and Eight more condemned, in all Twenty and Eight, of which above a third part were Members of some of the Churches of N. England, and more than half of them of a good Conversation in general, and not one clear'd; about Fifty having confest themselves to be Witches, of which not one Executed; above an Hundred and Fifty in Prison, and Two Hundred more acccused; the Special Commision of Oyer and Terminer comes to a period,..."

so 28 were killed in one way or another hanging, Pressing (placing a board on someones chest and stacking stones on them till they were smashed), or left to die in jail. 50 confessed and were just thrown in jail, they were added to another 150 just thrown in prison, and another 200 were just accused but were not found to be guilty. but were to be ostracized for the rest of their life. there was nothing realistic about these trials just insanity and away to cleanse communities of the less then desirable.
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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:03 am

We won't even discuss the tortures these people were put through to get them to admit to being witches or to accuse others. Waterboarding is a pleasantry in comparison. I'm not sure how much of it was a part of the section of history known as the "Salem Witch Trials," but it was entirely too common.
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Re: Stakes and Burning

Postby FearTheAmish » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:12 am

MagicManICT wrote:We won't even discuss the tortures these people were put through to get them to admit to being witches or to accuse others. Waterboarding is a pleasantry in comparison. I'm not sure how much of it was a part of the section of history known as the "Salem Witch Trials," but it was entirely too common.


Yeah just remember according to the church as long as you didn't spill blood it was allowed.... and since fire sears the wounds close... ill just leave it there.
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