Optimal Progression

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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby staxjax » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:42 pm

Potted plants are a waste of time and humus, but if you do want to have some I would reccomend only doing these two food dishes until they outlive their usefulness:

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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby Hans_Lemurson » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:58 pm

staxjax wrote:Potted plants are a waste of time and humus, but if you do want to have some I would reccomend only doing these two food dishes until they outlive their usefulness:

Dragon's Breath Salad
Salem Wiki: Mushroom Pie

I was noticing that potted plants were humous-guzzlers. What do you think would be a good humous cost for them? 1 per pot?
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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby staxjax » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:38 am

You have to use 3 humus to prepare the pot. So you can get 8 pots planted every 3 days out of one compost bin.
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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby Potjeh » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:08 pm

marduc wrote:
Jaunt wrote:Thanks for the insights. 2 grass per pot per cycle? You're surely in it for the long haul.


3 grass per pot with whatever skill it is that gives you one extra with gardening (cannot think of what it was offhand). But yeah, I have a lot of stuff growing, 15 pots of grass for hay provides me with 6 hays every harvest. I am approaching the point where I have to decide for myself if it is worth expanding this or not.

Why would you grow grass for hay? With that 45 humus you could plant 22 fields of cereals and get 22 hay instead, plus a lot of spare oats for filling your compost bins.
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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby marduc » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:35 pm

Potjeh wrote:
marduc wrote:
Jaunt wrote:Thanks for the insights. 2 grass per pot per cycle? You're surely in it for the long haul.


3 grass per pot with whatever skill it is that gives you one extra with gardening (cannot think of what it was offhand). But yeah, I have a lot of stuff growing, 15 pots of grass for hay provides me with 6 hays every harvest. I am approaching the point where I have to decide for myself if it is worth expanding this or not.

Why would you grow grass for hay? With that 45 humus you could plant 22 fields of cereals and get 22 hay instead, plus a lot of spare oats for filling your compost bins.


space limitations. Until I either make a new claim for more farmland or expand an existing claim (and there is only room for expansion on one side with my primary claim), I have room for pots, but not for fields. Plus I am grinding purity more than I am raising influence - this will change in the future, but for now the potted grass works - it seems the time to make and fence in a new claim, plus the silver costs are more inefficient than my current set up since hay demand is minimal - I am dumping coal and to a lesser degree lime on all but cotton fields currently. It is only 1.25 bins of humus to run 15 pots of grass harvested every three days and I have plenty of excess scraps to run that - humus is not a limiting factor at all, and does not take any time above and beyond dumping scraps in to keep fueled.
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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby Yourgrandmother » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:54 am

As mentioned it becomes too resource intensive to grow potted plants to make food. Especially once your crops gain purity it makes the 'capped out' 10% potted ingredients obsolete over time.

Stick with lead sugar caps for shroom pies for Blood. Blood will become your biggest problem after 100 humours on a newer server Jamestown/Roanoke.

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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:34 am

Yourgrandmother wrote:Perennial Philosophy [...]. It is also rumoured to be the base proficiency for witches.


Not to derail, but...

I'm curious as to where you heard this rumor or if it's more of a speculation. Of course, I'm not debating it as it makes good sense in several aspects, just curious as to where it drifted on the wind from.
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Re: Optimal Progression

Postby Dallane » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:47 am

MagicManICT wrote:
Yourgrandmother wrote:Perennial Philosophy [...]. It is also rumoured to be the base proficiency for witches.


Not to derail, but...

I'm curious as to where you heard this rumor or if it's more of a speculation. Of course, I'm not debating it as it makes good sense in several aspects, just curious as to where it drifted on the wind from.


No idea where that came from but people have always thought it will effect witchcraft. I think it will effect the church system instead of witchcraft or maybe both.
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