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Can indefinitely trap players on claims

Postby Cik » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:09 am

We claimed our Homesteads first. Sure...allow them to exploit all day by trapping a host of players, preventing them from a simple mechanic of 'going to boston', but to not be able to port out of our homestead is the issue.

We logged into our leanto's, our homesteads. The solution should be that if you log into the game in someone elses claim, then your immediately thrown or teleported out.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby robert » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:12 am

given the number of leantos one of you should have been able to afford 150s writ of homestead and drop a Pclaim to protect the area you are working. my self on my hermit did not pclaim or build anything apart from 1 leanto and 3 drying racks until i was in a place to claim it fully. to prevent this sort of abuse, if you built the house and walls you should have dropped a claim first. as right now game rule/mechanic wise your group is violating the area claim which is why you are being KO'ed. sadly this sort of abuse is common in these types of games, there was a time when people sold writ of homestead in town stalls for less then npc prices for noobs to buy and claim with... sadly what noobs did not know was the writ was bound to the person who bought it from the npc, pretty much screwing over the noob both on money for the writ and the fact the claim would prevent them doing anything on their "land"

thankfully now you have a 1 month free period with writs so that sort of abuse is less common. (they also made it that you cant market stall the writ i believe)

long story short, if you are more then 1 person and have enough stuff stockpiled to warrant protecting.. a writ of homestead should be the first thing you buy from the npc before nails or anything. and also before you worry about stone walls (throw up makeshift walls now or split rails to start at least)
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby Cik » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:17 am

Its an exploit.

Its not a matter of us not placing a stone.

We are /were at our homesteads.

We arent interested in our crates.

We're just interested in being able to port back to Boston from our homesteads.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby staxjax » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:14 am

This is not an exploit, it is intended game mechanics to be able to claim land whether other people's leantos are on it or not. The only thing you guys can hope for is that the owner of the claim will destroy your leanto's for you allowing you to transport to Boston upon revival. But, I think what will most likely happen, is the claim owner is going to be checking for KO people there so they can murder them. It is lame, but it's a rather nice trap if you like griefing people. Atleast now you guys know that you need to claim the land for it to actually be considered 'your land'.

There is really nothing you can do about it besides learn from the experience and be sure not to let it happen again.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby Cik » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:42 am

No. . .it is exploitation of a game-play mechanic. The personal claim mechanic is not intended to shut down a player, locking said player to his leanto, thus preventing them from teleporting to Boston.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby Champie4 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:47 am

staxjax wrote:This is not an exploit, it is intended game mechanics to be able to claim land whether other people's leantos are on it or not. The only thing you guys can hope for is that the owner of the claim will destroy your leanto's for you allowing you to transport to Boston upon revival.



Are you sure you really mean to assert that a KO loop that drains proficiencies and prevents ALL possible actions by a player is INTENDED GAME MECHANICS? I think this is a game mechanic with unintended consequences. If Jorbtar are satisfied with the results that have been reported, I think they owe some people a statement of that fact.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby stephenseiber » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:51 am

the stone wall was made by the person who claimed the land around our lean tos. they came here claimed then land then locked us in by building a wall around it.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby robert » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:53 am

hotbar the port to boston, when you revive spam port to boston and voosh you are out. its not a bug either, as the idea is you get ko'ed and return to homestead which in this case is just your weak leanto (its a horrible item to use as property FYI) the problem is you are BB draining on a claim you dont own (personal claim stone... which YOU should invest in... its in the guide for pete sakes)
the game can not tell if you are KO'ed from combat, darkness drain, doing naughty crimes on someone elses claim or what.. so its put you in a ko loop for that simple reason.

its not an exploit as its part of the game code to beable to build Pclaims on any unclaimed land regardless of what is there (provided its not already claimed) and the KO system really cant say OH you are ko'ed on someone elses land i wont ko you now.

so just spam "boston port" and hope you get it before you ko again. try having a homestead in darkness and KOing your self from combat or harvesting crops.. you get ko looped there too for the same reasons pretty much.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby Mereni » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:04 am

I think you can't port to boston when you're on someone else's land? They're pretty much trapped for good unless someone lets them out. But it's intended to be this way so that people who commit crimes on your land can't just port away to safety.

I can just see it, someone wandering around Salem with an inventory full of writs, putting claims over any claimed leanto they see. Yeah, not good for the newbies who don't have the silver for a claimstone yet, and a very nasty thing to do.

The solution is to never logout at Boston if you are living in a leanto with no claimstone. Don't logout on your leanto either, go a half a screen away. That way, you can walk home, see if your leanto is still standing and okay, and then rebuild elsewhere if there's a problem.
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Re: NEW: Exploit Trapped In Homestead - Please Release

Postby climber » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:50 am

Are you guys still trapped and on what server?
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