Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Tylan » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:24 am

[[Deleted on accident :X Reposting!]]

This reminds me of a suggestion someone made recently.

What if a percentage of sales went to the cost of rent in the form of a tax? This way funds go directly to the base cost of upkeep with the stall from the very onset, making more prosperous stalls receive higher income sooner (once the rent is paid, full amounts are paid out from sales.)

Stalls that fail to meet the paid rent can be paid with input silver at a higher cost should they be incapable of earning or worried they won't make enough in the month's time.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby loftar » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:59 am

The rent is already drawn from the stall's account if you don't pay it explicitly.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby FutureForJames » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:15 am

It will no longer be possible for the stand owner to withdraw items from the stand at no cost.


To avoid people storing valuable good at "very high prices", I suggest the withdraw price to be 10% of the price set 24 hours prior to withdraw. It should definitely not be a static price that is independent of the set price. The 24 hours window is there to prevent people from taking 1 second to change the price to 50% of the original price and then withdrawing; this way the withdraw needs to be planned.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Darwoth » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:26 am

sounds like an excessive nerf (rent is to high when combined with a 15% tax) and people will ***** and moan regardless of what happens so long as somebody else somewhere has something they don't.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby FutureForJames » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:31 am

Darwoth wrote:sounds like an excessive nerf and people will ***** and moan regardless of what happens so long as somebody else somewhere has something they don't.


I will ***** and moan as long as capital city activity is dead. Stalls killed a lot of the player activity in the capital cities, but it was a necessary evil to get people to cough up some dough at the beginning of the servers to purchase stalls. The Casino suggested, I strongly support due to how people would become active again in the capital.

Edit: And no, having a stall wouldn't fix that problem, owned one, still same problem obviously.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Darwoth » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:48 am

well thats great but what does it have to do with the stall changes?
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Odekva » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:48 am

FutureForJames wrote:
It will no longer be possible for the stand owner to withdraw items from the stand at no cost.


To avoid people storing valuable good at "very high prices", I suggest the withdraw price to be 10% of the price set 24 hours prior to withdraw. It should definitely not be a static price that is independent of the set price. The 24 hours window is there to prevent people from taking 1 second to change the price to 50% of the original price and then withdrawing; this way the withdraw needs to be planned.

I would agree to something like this, because there could be a problem - For example I want to sell some top purity pies, but since no one ever sells them I do not know the price. And I set 10 pies for 500s each and no one buy's them and no one buy them for 250s also. What then? Should I buy them myself because I was wrong with pricing?

There should be a possibility to withdraw or to set any price I would think of else it would be difficult to sell rare items such as hats/masks/high purity stuff.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Yourgrandmother » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:40 am

I'm glad you guys are looking at stalls.

However something needs to be done about availability.

it is almost overpowered to own a stall vs not owning one.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Darwoth » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:43 am

Yourgrandmother wrote:I'm glad you guys are looking at stalls.

However something needs to be done about availability.

it is almost overpowered to own a stall vs not owning one.



actually with these changes (1k a week in addition to tax primarily) and the current server populations even plymouth does not have enough trade happening to support all of the stalls as is, adding more would just make it so nobody could afford to pay for their stall via their stall.
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Re: Pre-Announcement: Upcoming Changes to Market Stands

Postby Potjeh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:02 am

Just replace the stalls with an auction house already.
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