If Gallows Hill was the Preeminent Faction

[Glennfinnan]

You and alloin live in a delusional world.
I never stepped forward nor wanted to. My persona was exposed to the light without my agreement nor will [http://forum.plymouth.seatribe.se/viewtopic.php?p=35943#p35943]. And since it was exposed I'll do my best to showcase Chief's lies. I'm not the one looking for "reckognition" or "trying to be interesting". You mistake my actions, which serve the only purpose of proving the Chief's lies/propaganda [such as the screenshot posted in this thread]. I don't really know what you're getting at. I never thought that I will 'stay in the shadows' for eternity since that's impossible anyway, but I did however try to for as long as I could [-"I'm not the one looking for "reckognition" or "trying to be interesting""].
Once again, I didn't "step out of the shadows" willingly, unless you're implying I had Argost make this post for me.

[FutureForJames]

You and alloin live in a delusional world.
I never stepped forward nor wanted to. My persona was exposed to the light without my agreement nor will [http://forum.plymouth.seatribe.se/viewtopic.php?p=35943#p35943]. And since it was exposed I'll do my best to showcase Chief's lies. I'm not the one looking for "reckognition" or "trying to be interesting". You mistake my actions, which serve the only purpose of proving the Chief's lies/propaganda [such as the screenshot posted in this thread]. I don't really know what you're getting at. I never thought that I will 'stay in the shadows' for eternity since that's impossible anyway, but I did however try to for as long as I could.
Once again, I didn't "step out of the shadows" willingly, unless you're implying I had Argost make this post for me.

He gave very little information. You could even have denied the whole thing, far from everyone screenshots conversations. He didn't say anything about your involvement in any PvP either other than that you were an accessory by being in the same town.

You could have and can still very much live in the shadows in the sense that you don't disclose what you did and what you didn't do. It is known that you were in Gallows Hill and that you are against Chief, but more than that you do not have to disclose unless you choose to, but you do choose to and you don't seem to see anything problematic with it.

[Glennfinnan]

He gave very little information. You could even have denied the whole thing

While I may lie ingame I try to keep the lies on the forums to minimum, unlike others [I actually can't recall myself lying on the forums, trolling - yes, occasionally].

He didn't say anything about your involvement in any PvP

You aren't going to have me dig everything for you, are you? Either read everything or stop arguing with the fraction of info you've got.
viewtopic.php?p=42381#p42381

You could have and can still very much live in the shadows in the sense that you don't disclose what you did and what you didn't do. It is known that you were in Gallows Hill and that you are against Chief, but more than that you do not have to disclose unless you choose to, but you do choose to and you don't seem to see anything problematic with it.

This one may be actually partially right, however disclosing myself [to the little extent I do it] only proves the Chief's lies, which is all I'm aiming for.

[FutureForJames]

He gave very little information. You could even have denied the whole thing

While I may lie ingame I try to keep the lies on the forums to minimum, unlike others [I actually can't recall myself lying on the forums, trolling - yes, occasionally].

So lying is okay only if you troll? XD
Why do you draw the line there? Why is it okay for you to lie when you troll but not in other situations? Furthermore, how can you be sure that most other people do not intend to troll whenever they use lies?

He didn't say anything about your involvement in any PvP

You aren't going to have me dig everything for you, are you? Either read everything or stop arguing with the fraction of info you've got.
viewtopic.php?p=42381#p42381

In the thread you provide, Staxjax implicitely states that you have killed chief alts and that you've left scents in the past; however, Staxjax is known to troll from time to time so you could have denied it, either directly or indirectly (indirectly like just simply ignoring it). Chief very much has reason to take anything Stax says with a big grain of salt.

You could have and can still very much live in the shadows in the sense that you don't disclose what you did and what you didn't do. It is known that you were in Gallows Hill and that you are against Chief, but more than that you do not have to disclose unless you choose to, but you do choose to and you don't seem to see anything problematic with it.

This one may be actually partially right, however disclosing myself [to the little extent I do it] only proves the Chief's lies, which is all I'm aiming for.

Which is in itself a victory for Chief; he got to you and compelled you to get out and start trying to disprove Chief's lies using information about yourself. For instance the "not using any bugs" lie is already proven by the town bell incident, there was not any need for you provide screenshots from attempts to block wall holes using alts: yet you chose too, which brings me back to the point about wanting reckognition. I'll give you a similar advice to the one you gave to me: do not reveal unnecessary information unless it has been proven that the point cannot come across in any other way; it isn't enough to just consider a fraction of all possibilities.

[Glennfinnan]

I take most of what's said to be the truth by default. And while my trolling won't harm anyone, other's might [assuming that for example the recent Procne scamming thing was a troll].
Anyone reading the forums carefully can see what factions I belonged to and come to a conclusion that I might have taken part in some of the related happenings so the information I use is not any secret or the one I'd care about [anymore].
I probably feel the need of trying to disprove all of the Chief's lies because some people actually believe the others. There are those who weren't here back when Chief abused the GH Town Bell and firmly believe in Chief's opinion about it. I'm simply trying to make the other lies available without lurking in the past threads - just like Chief is continuously spreading the lies [action-reaction]. None of the info I do care about [now, at least] was ever reaveled.

If you want to keep the discussion then maybe make a separate thread? I think we're derailing this too badly...

[FutureForJames]

I take most of what's said to be the truth by default. And while my trolling won't harm anyone, other's might [assuming that for example the recent Procne scamming thing was a troll].
Anyone reading the forums carefully can see what factions I belonged to and come to a conclusion that I might have taken part in some of the related happenings so the information I use is not any secret or the one I'd care about [anymore].
I probably feel the need of trying to disprove all of the Chief's lies because some people actually believe the others. There are those who weren't here back when Chief abused the GH Town Bell and firmly believe in Chief's opinion about it. I'm simply trying to make the other lies available without lurking in the past threads - just like Chief is continuously spreading the lies [action-reaction]. None of the info I do care about [now, at least] was ever reaveled.

If you want to keep the discussion then maybe make a separate thread? I think we're derailing this too badly...

I would make a seperate thread if there was any good place in the forum for it, but there is none XD. On the other hand I will though do a formal request in the rules thread for them to make a such section.

[alloin]

blabla... There are those who weren't here back when Chief abused the GH Town Bell and firmly believe in Chief's opinion about it. more blabla...

And back to this story again, abusers pointing fingers at the rest. Derpaderp

In certain situations he can only defend him with pointing our grammar/spelling mistakes, still think he's not trying to be interesting while he is O.o

Just keep your mouth shut, there's nothing worthwhile coming out of you, unless it's unwanted attention-whoring (which you will deny again)

I never lied btw, i only troll

[MagicManICT]

Like I said, luck and a lack of anyone raiding but the tribe alone can let you last a long time. But you know you have to worry all the time that some day you'll be found and raided. You know it's just a matter of time.

I have been there since plymouth started. Prewipe my place was never touched either. There are a ton of places like this.

Me as well.

You just won't be able to convince some people. They see boogeymen lurking in every shadow. I see them, too, but I'm not afeared of them.

[clouddog]

Like I said, luck and a lack of anyone raiding but the tribe alone can let you last a long time. But you know you have to worry all the time that some day you'll be found and raided. You know it's just a matter of time.

I have been there since plymouth started. Prewipe my place was never touched either. There are a ton of places like this.

If you don't want to be found there is alot of ways to hide but Sometimes players want to be found or don't care