Conjecture regarding governance

[staxjax]

Let me get this straight, you had them all memorized for months and havent done anything about them yet? So what exactly are you going to do about it now? tbh, I don't think you are marking the correct people.

Careful treaty payers, you might accidently end up on chief's list. lol.

[jwhitehorn]

Let me get this straight, you had them all memorized for months and havent done anything about them yet? So what exactly are you going to do about it now? tbh, I don't think you are marking the correct people.

Careful treaty payers, you might accidently end up on chief's list. lol.

Treaty Payers are given the HS to add so that they can never be caught in cross-fire.

These people were randoms that were mem'd in boston as non-treaty payers but were not high on the list to be slaughtered. They have since had their names and priority changed once trading with you.

I know the idea of actual organization comes as a bit of a shock but trust me. The Tribe monitors all activities and everybody will have what they deserve by the time this is over.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Dshaded]

Catch my drift ?

Hey thats my line, L33LEE is now nr10 on MM Tribe's most wanted list :]

[dageir]

The idea of an uncorrupt mercenary group/police force is utopian. This has never existed in the history of man and will not exist in this game.

[Procne]

- MM doesn't raid people unwilling to pay
- Those who take the luxuries from their government (safety, lotterys, clear roads, enforced system of laws) and yet refuse to pay that governement are subject to have their property seized (raided). I'm pretty sure this applies in every form of modern government now.

I do pay upkeep for my stall and claims, which are provided to me by the only legitimate government (devs and game mechanics)
I received nothing from you except for threats, extortions, raided friends and black PR and I'm not intending to pay for those.

- MM doesn't try to force monopoly on stalls but allows free market
- And are you allowed to transport high end technology out of your country to developing nations? How about blueprints to uranium production? Can you obtain financing on property for more than what it appraises for? Can you even "gift" a large sum of material wealth without paying a gift tax? Unfortunately, once again, every form of government imposes some form of regulation on free trade and open markets. The world would be Chaos if any person could transfer and launder any amount of goods through a stall to Raiders and Evil-Doers so our regulation of this mechanic is necessary for Justice.

Oh, I also pay stall tax from every sale. And iron bars aren't high end technology. The knowledge of their production isn't yours only. I think I prefer chaos than organised crime.

But enough with the roleplaying.

[Etherdrifter]

The Tribe monitors all activities and everybody will have what they deserve by the time this is over.

A curious notion, I wonder what I'll be getting ^_^



I do have a question to pose the tribe. In what way are those not paying the treaty subtracting security from those who do? Surely this is just an excuse to force people to pay for protection instead of letting them take the risk. If player A does not pay, and is raided, well he can sort his own issues out. You have a record of who pays and who does not, thus there is no loss.

- MM doesn't raid people unwilling to pay
- Those who take the luxuries from their government (safety, lotterys, clear roads, enforced system of laws) and yet refuse to pay that governement are subject to have their property seized (raided). I'm pretty sure this applies in every form of modern government now.

Your comparison of the tribe to a government is terrible at best. I have yet to hear of a case (in a civilised nation) of someone being executed for tax evasion. If the mmtribe took items but left a person alive, well then I might consider them in a better light and the comparison would be reasonable.

[Procne]

Your comparison of the tribe to a government is terrible at best. I have yet to hear of a case (in a civilised nation) of someone being executed for tax evasion. If the mmtribe took items but left a person alive, well then I might consider them in a better light and the comparison would be reasonable.

I think you would find many examples for that among dictatorship countries

[jwhitehorn]

I received nothing from you except for threats, extortions, raided friends and black PR and I'm not intending to pay for those.

See and this is the fundamental issue with those who attempt to cheat the Justice system of Plymouth. This kind of attitude is one that stems from somebody failing to realize the INDIRECT benefits of the Tribe. If you are looking for a DIRECT action from the Tribe you may or may not have a story to tell. Eliminating a Criminal typically takes place DIRECTLY with the last place that Criminal left scents. But what about the 20+ bases that Criminal hit before? What about the 1,000 bases that Criminal WOULD have hit if the Tribe doesn't keep Justice?

Procne enjoyed the luxuries of an unraided base because the Tribe killed all Criminals on this server. He most certainly would have been found, raided, and most likely killed if were not so vigilant in our justice keeping. However, because he did not see a scent at his place, and therefore, a DIRECT result of our justice he assumes that he has not indeed benefited from the Tribe.

This is no different that those who do not pay their taxes because they do not call the police or fire departments. They still use the safe roads and sidewalks because of the police. They enjoy the comfort of their home due to fires put out miles away by the firefighters. But because their house was not DIRECTLY ON FIRE they feel justified in not paying their share.

Its a horrible mentality. One that I hope you keep confined in the walls of this game. But regardless you have never been shy about flaunting your criminal ways so I do not expect you to change in this thread.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Procne]

I received nothing from you except for threats, extortions, raided friends and black PR and I'm not intending to pay for those.

See and this is the fundamental issue with those who attempt to cheat the Justice system of Plymouth. This kind of attitude is one that stems from somebody failing to realize the INDIRECT benefits of the Tribe. If you are looking for a DIRECT action from the Tribe you may or may not have a story to tell. Eliminating a Criminal typically takes place DIRECTLY with the last place that Criminal left scents. But what about the 20+ bases that Criminal hit before? What about the 1,000 bases that Criminal WOULD have hit if the Tribe doesn't keep Justice?

Procne enjoyed the luxuries of an unraided base because the Tribe killed all Criminals on this server. He most certainly would have been found, raided, and most likely killed if were not so vigilant in our justice keeping. However, because he did not see a scent at his place, and therefore, a DIRECT result of our justice he assumes that he has not indeed benefited from the Tribe.

This is no different that those who do not pay their taxes because they do not call the police or fire departments. They still use the safe roads and sidewalks because of the police. They enjoy the comfort of their home due to fires put out miles away by the firefighters. But because their house was not DIRECTLY ON FIRE they feel justified in not paying their share.

Its a horrible mentality. One that I hope you keep confined in the walls of this game. But regardless you have never been shy about flaunting your criminal ways so I do not expect you to change in this thread.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

My camp was created before you even started your killing spree in scalp thread. I have never been raided because I protected my place to a degree when raiding me seemed not profitable. While I was working on my defenses you were slaughtering newbies who couldn't protect themselves. And now you are saying those newbies are safe thanks to you.

I do pay my taxes and I have provided you with so many iron bars. But you always needed more.

You remind me of soviet union which "raided" several European countries and then, in the name of brotherhood, equality and order started sucking those countries dry out of any valuables that could be found.

[dageir]

Im getting tired of all this bickering. Why dont you that oppose the Chief try to talk to each other and organize an opposition instead of chatting in the forums. I on the other hand know my limitations and wont oppose anyone.