If Gallows Hill was the Preeminent Faction

[JinxDevona]

There's the recent thread from Roanoke where the Russians came to a base, demanded high percentage cabbage seeds, and when they didn't get them, they attacked.

Uhm, if you read that thread more thoroughly you will see that Russians simply raided. They tried explaining it later that someone from raided town left scents in some russian noob camp. Dunno how much truth there's in that, to my it was a simple raid.

But yeah, "pay or be killed" is standard extortion fitting Salem or HnH. The strong dictate their rules. What is annoying with MM is how they present themselves as liberators, with the help of Raelak's puppets and the smooth talk, which is ridicilous for people who were here for some time.

I do see them as liberators though. There was no way to secure myself prior to the treaty. I can make walls and walls but people could still break in. The tribe keeps me way safer than I was before. On my friends account our characters were killed and we had 3 walls which did nothing. I actually feel safe now because of what the tribe has done.

You are a noob and a fool. I read all your other posts and find what you say ridiculous. Only noobs fall for MMs propaganda. Only noobs defend MM. You have said here and in another thread that basically you are weak and therefore need MMs protection. You bought protection mostly from MMs terror. I am weak and have not been touched. It's about intelligence in this game as well as everything else. It's not just about what you build, it's about where you build and how. To all weak or noobish out there, do not fall for this crap. No one is saying choose MM or GH. All GH and others againt MM are saying is stand up for yourself and stop falling for all the BS that MM spews.

K I've been up all night, I'm tired, night all and GL Mushi and friends!

[CharlesM]

You are a noob and a fool. I read all your other posts and find what you say ridiculous. Only noobs fall for MMs propaganda. Only noobs defend MM. You have said here and in another thread that basically you are weak and therefore need MMs protection. You bought protection mostly from MM. I am weak and have not been touched. It's about intelligence in this game as well as everything else. It's not just about what you build, it's about where you build and how. To all weak or noobish out there, do not fall for this crap. No one is saying choose MM or GH. All GH and others againt MM are saying is stand up for yourself and stop falling for all the BS that MM spews.

K I've been up all night, I'm tired, night all and GL Mushi and friends!

It's about where I build? Salem's map is tiny. No matter where I build someone will find it eventually and when they do, they will attempt to attack me. I can fortify my walls all that I can but in the end they will fall. The tribe protects me for when this happens. I doubt GH would offer such a service if they were as powerful as the tribe.

[JinxDevona]

Again so not true. I have been on Plymouth since it's beginning and I have never, ever been found. Quit trying to scare people into paying MM. Do that in the MM treaty thread.

[Procne]

Salem's map is tiny? How can you know that 1 day after creating account? How much evidence is needed for mods to ban puppet?

With the recent update to walls, the only people attacking well protected settlements are MM people. Either to destroy their enemies or to prove that not paying treaty will get you killed. Paying treaty gives you (temporary) protection from tribe itself, not from other raiders. Standard raiders won't touch well protected settlement because it's not cost effective for them. MM are not liberators, they are just another raider faction with "pay us or be destroyed" attitude, just with more sock puppets and propaganda.

[CharlesM]

Again so not true. I have been on Plymouth since it's beginning and I have never, ever been found. Quit trying to scare people into paying MM. Do that in the MM treaty thread.

I am not trying to scare anyone into doing something.

I am simply saying that with the tribe being the most powerful faction I am much safer than if another faction were in power, say GH for instance. If you are so agianst the treaty and thnk only noobs "fall for it" then why don't you discuss that in the treaty thread?

Salem's map is tiny? How can you know that 1 day after creating account? How much evidence is needed for mods to ban puppet?

With the recent update to walls, the only people attacking well protected settlements are MM people. Either to destroy their enemies or to prove that not paying treaty will get you killed. Paying treaty gives you (temporary) protection from tribe itself, not from other raiders. Standard raiders won't touch well protected settlement because it's not cost effective for them. MM are not liberators, they are just another raider faction with "pay us or be destroyed" attitude, just with more sock puppets and propaganda.

If you read my other posts you'd know that I played on my friend's account for a while and have just recently made my own account. And I do agree that with the updates it is easier to be more protected now. However I disagree that raiders won't touch well defended settlements, they know that they most likely have better stuff than smaller bases. The tribesmen are most definately liberators, not oppressors, and I am happy that they are the largest faction because it could be so much worse.

[Procne]

Mister big lie, you are indeed a forum nightmare. I didn't think MM is that desperate to rely on techniques like this.
Plus I doubt you would erase your game progress just to play on new account.

[dageir]

To answer the thread title once and for all: GH could never be the preeminent faction. Here are the reasons:
1. They were not interested in being the preeminent faction. They just were (are) very active in the forums but besides that did little to conquer the world.
2. They were too few to be able to hold power over time if they tried.
3. They had very bad recruitment policy. (Paymaster Paul)

PS. Thread is not for arguing with MM meat puppets.

[Mushibag]

To answer the thread title once and for all: GH could never be the preeminent faction. Here are the reasons:
1. They were not interested in being the preeminent faction. They just were (are) very active in the forums but besides that did little to conquer the world.
2. They were too few to be able to hold power over time if they tried.
3. They had very bad recruitment policy. (Paymaster Paul)

PS. Thread is not for arguing with MM meat puppets.

^THIS!

[CharlesM]

Mister big lie, you are indeed a forum nightmare. I didn't think MM is that desperate to rely on techniques like this.
Plus I doubt you would erase your game progress just to play on new account.

Do you even read what I type? Also stop derailing the thread.

Okay, when I used to play on my friend's account, we had a medium sized base with 3 houses and 3 walls. It took us several days just to get the walls up and countless hours. It took 2 people about 30 minutes to come in and destroy all our hard work. After the tribe rose to power however, we were offered protection and no one has raided us since.

Let's say, however, GH rose to power instead. Would I be offered the same protection? I don't think that is likely.

[Etherdrifter]

Let's say, however, GH rose to power instead. Would I be offered the same protection? I don't think that is likely.

Hrm, as one who has had friends killed by the MM Tribe before the "Treaty" and has been here from the start I can honestly say the world was a lot less horrific when the MM Tribe were not around.

The MM Tribe, for all their rhetoric; griefs new players, griefs anyone not willing to pay them, griefs anyone who trades with someone who does not pay them and are generally dedicated to destruction. The difference between the tribe and a "just" force is that a just force simply won't help when you get raided if you don't pay, the tribe however raze your home to the ground, murdesr you, and then makes the same threats a week later (if the player has not already quit).

All in all, even if GH did not offer a protection service, the world would be a safer place.