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Re: Native American Crops

Postby Potjeh » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:36 pm

There's tobacco in NA.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby dageir » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:44 pm

Yeah. That is something the indians were using for medicinal and religious purposes. Maybe some creational purposes. They didnt eat it though and didnt help them alot when the europeans came. Could be implemented in game to give some kind of buff.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby rodrigoq » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:24 am

Alcohol, white mans curse. Tobacco, Indians revenge.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby JinxDevona » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:21 am

Southern Colonies had rice. There was indigo, but don't see much use for a dye plant. Tobacco and corn otherwise. I really don't have any interest in tobacco. But, I think we can stray from history since we kind of have already with the other crops. We can have potatoes, sugar cane (maybe in pots rather than fields), even vines with grapes, and fruit trees that works with our new forestry skill.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby Dogwood » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:41 pm

dageir wrote:In general the North american natives had very few agricultural products compared to the fertile crescent.


Eh. Three sisters (maize, squash, beans),pumpkins, tomatoes, Jerusalem artichokes, sunflowers, gourds, tobacco, peppers, wild rice, Amaranth, quinoa, not to mention all the agroforestry products they cared for like blueberries and raspberries.

...just to name a few.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby Plazek » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:55 pm

I will be dissapointed if we do not get pipes to smoke.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby AAlex » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:00 am

Tobacco pipes and Wine for feasting please :mrgreen:

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Re: Native American Crops

Postby dageir » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:35 am

Dogwood wrote:
dageir wrote:In general the North american natives had very few agricultural products compared to the fertile crescent.


Eh. Three sisters (maize, squash, beans),pumpkins, tomatoes, Jerusalem artichokes, sunflowers, gourds, tobacco, peppers, wild rice, Amaranth, quinoa, not to mention all the agroforestry products they cared for like blueberries and raspberries.

...just to name a few.


My point still stands. How many of these products could keep a population alive? Compared to the old middle east the rest of the world had little to show for when speaking of livestock and cultivated plants that had any good use. Sure they had some cultivated plants in America, but not to that extent of that of the old world.

Read this book and talk to me later: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby imrielle » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:50 am

Anyone else think of this every time they see this thread's title?
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Also, Strawberries. They cultivated strawberries as well.
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Re: Native American Crops

Postby Dogwood » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:15 am

dageir wrote:
Dogwood wrote:
dageir wrote:In general the North american natives had very few agricultural products compared to the fertile crescent.


Eh. Three sisters (maize, squash, beans),pumpkins, tomatoes, Jerusalem artichokes, sunflowers, gourds, tobacco, peppers, wild rice, Amaranth, quinoa, not to mention all the agroforestry products they cared for like blueberries and raspberries.

...just to name a few.


My point still stands. How many of these products could keep a population alive? Compared to the old middle east the rest of the world had little to show for when speaking of livestock and cultivated plants that had any good use. Sure they had some cultivated plants in America, but not to that extent of that of the old world.

Read this book and talk to me later: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel



This book posits that the lack of larger domesticatable herd animals and the north/south positioning on North America as opposed to the east/west positioning of the Middle East/Mediterranean/Asia is what facilitated long term cultures and the necessary exchange of knowledge to build off the defunct ones. I'm familiar with Jared Diamond and I wouldn't say he was arguing that the plants just suck in North America. Corn supported some pretty intense long term civilizations, even if I was to exclude anything south of the border, I could still site the Anazai (which Mr. Diamond seems to be paticularly interested in his other book, Collapse) and the Hopewell off the top of my head.

Any way my intention here isn't to argue the Middle East vs New England which seems pointless and moot, but rather to point out the developers actually have a wide variety of plant species native to north america which they could choose to implement.

Personally I would like to see the pumpkins and sunflowers the most. I'd also like to see the implementation of agroforestry, however I'm not holding my breath.
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