omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same, yo)

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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby Mushibag » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:44 am

I think Salem has the potential to surpass HnH in every way. It's just a matter of how long it will take for the content to arrive. Once Salem is complete, I have every confidence that it will be better than HnH. I think the problem is that Seatribe wtfpwned Paradox in their contract negotiations, and this has lead to EXTREMELY slow development. Jorb & Loftar have no motivation to crank out the content at a reasonable pace, but are instead milking the contract as long as they can. I can't say I blame them, but it's just a little disappointing to see how rare updates have become. We were all told that once the multi-server **** was done, we'd get back to weekly updates, but that time has come and gone, and we're still sitting around waiting.
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby Decay » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:50 am

Mushibag wrote: Jorb & Loftar have no motivation to crank out the content at a reasonable pace, but are instead milking the contract as long as they can.

Paradox currently own salem? Or does Jorb & Loftar?

From what I read what you said seems salem currently under control of paradox? Which might actually be a very good thing.
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby Mushibag » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:52 am

I don't know the details. Everything I said was purely speculative.
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby dageir » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:52 am

At this point I think the game is ok, but when I get all proficiencies and higher humours I can see that I might get bored and do something stupid like raiding and get summon killed. Then I would most likely quit the game because then I would have done it all.
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby robert » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:54 am

bug abusing a video game is not the same as DDOSing a server. while bug abuse can be gamebreaking for a majority of players, DDOSing the server would effect the entire game so where the 1x1 field mod might effect people in a small area, killing the server(s) to where they are offline would be seen as worse imo.

and frankly trying to argue that bug abuse is par with brute forcing a server in to crashing... is alittle extreme
also ddosing is not bug abusing its a script that spams the server with data that over loads it, a 1x1 field mod that crashes the client is not exactly the same thing. or a bug that allows you to swim for an unlimited period of time while playing a fiddle i wouldnt consider the same either.

while the devs should treat all bugs as serious and work to correct each and everyone. having them focus all their effort in fixing a bug that makes you do an irish jig when you learn a fiddle is hardly gameplay breaking, like a bug that allows you to ghost through walls and instantly pk a player.. :/
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby Decay » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:56 am

robert wrote:bug abusing a video game is not the same as DDOSing a server

*Sigh* we really going over this again?
Who mentioned Ddosing the server?

"frankly trying to argue that bug abuse is par with brute forcing a server in to crashing."
Hey sherlock 99.9% of DDoS attacks are done by abusing bugs
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby staxjax » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:57 am

You did.

Decay wrote:Everything from people from figuring out ways to Ddos people through massive 1x1 farms
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby Decay » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:00 am

staxjax wrote:You did.

DDoS doesn't mean just a botnet attack refreshing a webpage
Denial of Service.... is what you call it when someone crashes a service you are using. Either the server OR the client.
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby staxjax » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:03 am

In computing, a denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a machine or network resource unavailable to its intended users


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddos_attack

Somebody's client crashing from overload of farm tiles is not a dos attack, that means their computer sucks. lol.
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Re: omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same,

Postby Decay » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:05 am

staxjax wrote:
In computing, a denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a machine or network resource unavailable to its intended users


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddos_attack

Somebody's irc client crashing from to many whisper windows being opened isn't a Ddos it is bad computer dude


You sure? ¦]

snap son ctcp flooding a irc client isn't a DDoS who would have thunk
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