omgzor, BUGABUSERS (DDoS attacks are basically the same, yo)

[Decay]

Also, problem is totally different from DDOS. Unless you count running out of memory or VGA card not handling extra geometry as a DDOS attack? Seriously?

So .... having a million bots hammer salems webpage with request to download images and running out of bandwidth to reach webpage isn't a Ddos?

I thought we were discussing farm problem? How did we jump into hammering salem webpage?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/dd ... b-site/422

Because Ddos is a broad term you do not seem to understand and I am trying to help you understand.

[Procne]

Sigh... farm problem has NOTHING to do with packets, connection protocols or server.
NOTHING.

It's just your PC not handling the amount of geometry in the area. Unless you have a client modified to use reduced geometry for farms. You don't need modified client to cause this problem. Server isn't DDOSed, clients aren't DDOSed.

[Chiprel]

Cept they don't.

You might want to read the threads of people actually abusing it.

I have one of ***** gfx cards that barely can run salem. Even with it I can render 200 1x1 fields in small area. With and without 1x1 farming mod.
With mod im getting around 25fps(cause of only 1 crop per field is rendered) and without it it's around 8fps(cause of 20-40crops per field generated).
(to check fps run salem with .bat

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java -Xms1024m -Xmx1024m -Dhaven.resurl="http://plymouth.seatribe.se/res/" -Dhaven.defserv="plymouth.seatribe.se" -jar salem.jar -d

-d goes for debug tool which shows fps.

[ameba]

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/dd ... b-site/422

Because Ddos is a broad term you do not seem to understand and I am trying to help you understand.

What you fail to understand is that we're discussing ethics of bug exploiting in this game and not DDoSing.
The fact that DDoS is such a broad term is more the reason I don't understand why are you saying "bug using = DDoSing"?

[Decay]

lot of non relative stuff

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3572&hilit=abuse

Go read this entire thread and come back

I don't understand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit_%2 ... _gaming%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDos#Distributed_attack

[Chiprel]

Care to link to the post? Cause what i saw is only half/quarter thruths in it and some random rages. I read first few pages but then it went too dumb to bother

[Decay]

Care to link to the post? Cause what i saw is only half/quarter thruths in it and some random rages. I read first few pages but then it went too dumb to bother

ya give me a little bit here

[Procne]

lot of non relative stuff

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3572&hilit=abuse

Go read this entire thread and come back

You don't need the mod to create 1x1 fields. But without it maintaining such fields is a real nightmare. I don't consider reduced space needed for fields a gamebreaking bug. Game crashing due to increased amount of fields is a problem, but it can be achieved without the mod

[Decay]

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3572&hilit=abuse&start=120#p39940

Let me try to explain the benefits of 1x1 farms in a better way.....
Here is my computer config that was lagging in my incomplete village
i5 2500k @ 4600GHz
8GB Corsair 1600MHz ram
Radeon 5970HD 2GB DDR5 dual gpu 1700/2500MHz

[Procne]

lot of non relative stuff

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3572&hilit=abuse

Go read this entire thread and come back

I don't understand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit_%2 ... _gaming%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDos#Distributed_attack

What does the farm bug have to do with DDOS. Noone is flooding anything, and surely not multiple systems. The only resources being drained are either memory or VGA power. But that only because suffering client runs on too weak machine to handle those. Whether those farms are 1x1 or 4x4 does not matter in this case. It's only the amount of farms