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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Procne » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:50 pm

wiki or dictionary for what?
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Decay » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:53 pm

Procne wrote:wiki or dictionary for what?

1x1 Farms crash players that are not using the same cheat.
Please explain how that does not fit the bill of Ddos... and it isn't the only Ddos being used.
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Procne » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:55 pm

Here's how I see it. You say that bugs like 1x1 farms being accepted, or at least tolerated, by devs and community now means that DDOSing server would be accepted all the same.

Real world analogy - tolerating using loop holes in law to avoid paying some taxes means that you can as well plant bombs under government buildings
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Decay » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:56 pm

Procne wrote:I herp derped on myself

Go away troll thanks :lol:
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I'm so glad you applied to mod this game then.
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Procne » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:57 pm

Decay wrote:
Procne wrote:wiki or dictionary for what?

1x1 Farms crash players that are not using the same cheat.
Please explain how that does not fit the bill of Ddos... and it isn't the only Ddos being used.


From what I know it's not the farms alone crashing the game for others. It's the amount of them. Most likely you would be able to achieve the same effect without modified client.

Also, problem is totally different from DDOS. Unless you count running out of memory or VGA card not handling extra geometry as a DDOS attack? Seriously?
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Chiprel » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:58 pm

Decay wrote:1x1 Farms crash players that are not using the same cheat.

Cept they don't.
If someone have 100 farms in 10x10 area (1x1 farms) its same as you would render 100 farms of 4x4. Foliage(crops) is generated same way.
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Decay » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:59 pm

Procne wrote:From what I know it's not the farms alone crashing the game for others. It's the amount of them.?

Just like its not the packets sent to webpages alone.... its the amount of them to ddos a webpage?

Chiprel wrote:Cept they don't.


You might want to read the threads of people actually abusing it.

Procne wrote:Also, problem is totally different from DDOS. Unless you count running out of memory or VGA card not handling extra geometry as a DDOS attack? Seriously?

So .... having a million bots hammer salems webpage with request to download images and running out of bandwidth to reach webpage isn't a Ddos?
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby ameba » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:01 pm

DDoSing is not bug using. It can, however, be achieved through the means of bug using. Use the terminology properly.
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Procne » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:02 pm

sigh...

In case of DDOS amount of packets is artificially bloated.
In case of farm problem it's not. It's not the amount of packets, it's your PC not handling the amount of farms.

Modified client only lowers geometry needed for each farm, so they take less resources.

Do I really have to waste time and seeds to make a place with 100 farms using standard client to prove my point?

eidt: Also, if you DDOS the server then game crashes for everyone. If you spam fields in an area then it will cause problems only for people with weaker machines in that particular location
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Re: The hate on forums?

Postby Procne » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:05 pm

Decay wrote:
Procne wrote:Also, problem is totally different from DDOS. Unless you count running out of memory or VGA card not handling extra geometry as a DDOS attack? Seriously?

So .... having a million bots hammer salems webpage with request to download images and running out of bandwidth to reach webpage isn't a Ddos?

I thought we were discussing farm problem? How did we jump into hammering salem webpage?
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