Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby TeckXKnight » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:28 pm

Darwoth wrote:just because you dont have a stall does not mean there is a problem.

stalls are fine how they are, it is only the crybabies mad they dont have one pissing and moaning about them.

I think it is problematic that we have such availability issues with stalls when the userbase is so much smaller than it should stabilize at.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Darwoth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:37 pm

and i am sure when the userbase increases significantly again more stalls will be added like they did this last time, i dont pretend to be a mind reader so i dont know the devs intentions but it makes sense from a gameplay perspective that stalls should be semi rare, about as rare as they are now in fact. i do not think 18 stalls on a server that usually tops out at around 150 peak population (which includes multiboxers) is unreasonable or overly rare.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby darnokpl » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:43 pm

Darwoth wrote:and i am sure when the userbase increases significantly again more stalls will be added like they did this last time, i dont pretend to be a mind reader so i dont know the devs intentions but it makes sense from a gameplay perspective that stalls should be semi rare, about as rare as they are now in fact. i do not think 18 stalls on a server that usually tops out at around 150 peak population (which includes multiboxers) is unreasonable or overly rare.


I disagree, stalls shouldn't be rare imho they should replace forums-trade-threads, so every town or camp that can spend 3k, 5k or 10k of silver should get 1 stall, but not more like it is right now.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Darwoth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:47 pm

of course you disagree, you would probably disagree that the world was round 150 years ago to because you are a retard.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Procne » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:53 pm

Darwoth wrote:and i am sure when the userbase increases significantly again more stalls will be added like they did this last time, i dont pretend to be a mind reader so i dont know the devs intentions but it makes sense from a gameplay perspective that stalls should be semi rare, about as rare as they are now in fact. i do not think 18 stalls on a server that usually tops out at around 150 peak population (which includes multiboxers) is unreasonable or overly rare.


Semi rare...
It's one thing when there are 18 stalls which are owned by 15 people, who work hard on maintaining those stalls, and it's something totally different when there are 18 stalls owned by 5 people who were lucky enough to be online when those stalls were added or had the time / money during server launch to buy some, and then do nothing to support them.

Yes, I know people who are dedicated should be given better rewards. But in this case it's not only about dedication, but also about luck. And those "dedicated" people don't receive rewards, but easy mode in the game. Perfect vault and easy income. You are so hardcore Darwoth and yet you paid loads of money for an easy mode?
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Darwoth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:56 pm

this is about the 500th time i have seen you chalk stall ownership up to "who was lucky enough to be online" when both roanoke and jamestown had vacant stalls for weeks when they first came out and the second batch of stalls they had slots available for 2+ days.

if you wanted one you could have gotten one, but you didnt so now it isnt "fair"
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Procne » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:57 pm

I have gotten one on Plymouth. Because I was lucky enough to login in the morning, few hours after they were added. If I had not logged then (which made me get late to work btw) I would have no chance at getting it.

I don't play on Jamestown and Roanoke

Do I have the right to voice my opinion as a stall owner now?

What is unfair is the fact that while stall owners sell, for example, iron bars for 150s, other people can only sell them for 50s while standing and shouting in Boston.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Darwoth » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:01 am

well plymouth still had them available for well over a day when they added more, and when plymouth first released it was almost a week before the initial slots were gone as well. again anyone that wanted one, particularly with the second batch could have gotten one.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Procne » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:03 am

Well over a day? They were added around 4am GMT, I bought my around 9am, and only half of the new ones wer left at that time. When I got back home around 8pm there was none left.

And even if it was a day... A single day out of server's couple of months life. To get a stall you not only have to gather the cash but you have to be online on that particular day.
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Re: Increase Stall Upkeep, Pay for Upkeep from Taxes

Postby Darwoth » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:06 am

if you had to "gather the cash" 3 months after launch and are "lucky" to log on once a day you are not the caliber of player that needs a stall anyway.
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