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Animal Behaviour

Postby solarisite » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:32 pm

I am new to the game, and quite positive about it so far. However, there is one problem that takes some of the joy out of the game for me: The relentless attacks from snakes and bears. With regard to the bears, these are fairly rare, and I guess it is normal behaviour for a bear to sometimes chase humans. But snakes? Come on, please, there is no way in nature a snake would chase a human being like that.

I suggest a modification to snake behaviour, in such a way that they will not chase you more than a few steps. And furthermore I suggest some kind of survival skill that will allow you to automatically avoid disturbing the animals. In the name of realism and improved game play.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby Dallane » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:42 pm

[quote="solarisite"] Come on, please, there is no way in nature a snake would chase a human being like that.
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Thats not true. Many of them are known to charge at times. Certain types of rattlers will do this often.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby Shiala » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:03 pm

I would suggest using Ender's client if you're not already. Being able to track animals on the map pretty much guarantees you will never accidentally aggro a snake again, unless you're not paying attention or they're hidden by something. Also keep in mind that snakes can't swim so if you have water nearby, you can always run into the shallows where they can't get you. As for bears, they're actually not that aggressive. I've gotten within range of hitting them without them aggroing me. What usually happens is you get caught in the area of effect from their roar. They will attack anything hit by the roar, which is why you'll see them fighting other animals at times.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby ImpalerWrG » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:44 pm

OP's point is that because snakes bite defensively at anything larger then themselves they do no PURSUE humans, for that matter they don't pursue their prey either cause they are ambush predators. Point is that if you dodge/avoid/run from initial agro the snake should de-agrro as soon as you open any distance on it if its behavior is to be at all like a real snakes.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby Shiala » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:23 pm

In the real world crickets are tiny and wouldn't eat your face off just because you're a weakling. At some point you have to set aside the notion of 100% realism for the sake of entertainment in a game world.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby Dallane » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:48 pm

ImpalerWrG wrote:OP's point is that because snakes bite defensively at anything larger then themselves they do no PURSUE humans, for that matter they don't pursue their prey either cause they are ambush predators. Point is that if you dodge/avoid/run from initial agro the snake should de-agrro as soon as you open any distance on it if its behavior is to be at all like a real snakes.


Dude some snakes are very aggressive and it defers between them. I've seen copper heads and cotton mouths that don't take **** from anyone. The cotton mouth charged a bit but would stop open its mouth and wiggle the tail like a rattle snake. Thankfully my .22 loaded with shot doesn't take **** either. My buddie during USMC training in CA told me about the rattlers being really aggressive with people.

If you turn on wander or even better run you can get away from them very easy and they will drop agro.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby _Gunnar » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:35 pm

If you want to fix snakes, probably should make the venom fatal if the antidote isn't applied... ¦]

I think its fine how it is.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby Dallane » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:01 pm

_Gunnar wrote:If you want to fix snakes, probably should make the venom fatal if the antidote isn't applied... ¦]


lol look at loftars post history for his thoughts on snake bites
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:04 pm

Dallane wrote:Dude some snakes are very aggressive and it defers between them. I've seen copper heads and cotton mouths that don't take **** from anyone. The cotton mouth charged a bit but would stop open its mouth and wiggle the tail like a rattle snake. Thankfully my .22 loaded with shot doesn't take **** either. My buddie during USMC training in CA told me about the rattlers being really aggressive with people.


Pretty much the reason I don't go hiking in some areas without a small caliber firearm with me. While most snakes in the US aren't deadly if bites are treated in a reasonable time, if you're a couple hours hike away from a road and have no cell service, you're not going to get to a hospital in time. Better to kill the snake. Of course, a good walking stick and a bit of knowledge in snake handling will usually drive them off in frustration after a few minutes of harrassment.
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Re: Animal Behaviour

Postby dageir » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:05 pm

You could also opt to leave the snake alone.
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