In Which I Come Clean

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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby mckags » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:15 am

The justifications for your actions are terrible. Face it, the real reason you betrayed GH is because you were angry for losing one month of your time, blaming Mushi for your death, even though your murder was purely coincidental during our retaliation for the invasion and death of Jordan Coles.

How about making me and six other active players who have nothing to do with what you are talking lose months of their time because of your need for revenge? You've made me lose at least 300 hours of work on my personal plot, plus the ingame money I bought for it. The driving force behind me playing this game was developing my plot, and trying to make my own new player settlement right after I was sure that our town was safe from the chief. I've already found the spot and started moving things to it with the help of others, but that project is now abandoned. I have been saving up high level cabbages to level new players in order to build that settlement.

You've just given all my work to the chief and pals, who most probably have already spent it on themselves. You've made their characters almost unstoppable with the highest level of agriculture that were on our plots. You've destroyed the next big chance for Plymouth to be reinvigorated by newer players, instead of actually helping new players survive against more established villages. Sure, other GH players will come back to get their revenge on the chief, but by labelling the whole town as no-gooders, you've just made me and the players inside GH who were going to do something good quit our plans and help on the killing part of the game. Irrelevant of what other GH members think, do you think I will go back to try and helping new players? I see now that the only "fun" that the only way to be satisfied in this game is in the betrayal and destruction of other peoples hard work, like what you and the MM tribe do. I'm going to get my revenge on the MM Tribe true, but not before I loot and pillage dozens of noob villagers to the ground, because apparently, thats where the fun is at. Good luck trying to pretend you did something good there champ.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:17 am

Ornery wrote:Guess it's time to start merc'ing anyone not kinned so I can live up to Paul's judgement of me. If anyone gets killed in Plymouth by me you can thank Paul, I'll post your screen here so you can be sure who was responsible. Finally no more tracking the noobkillers he so hated, so liberating :)

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Ass_Kraken wrote:Personally, I find you to be all the more malicious and disruptive than the chief, someone who posts killings of random new players on this very forum. You are a spy, a betrayer, and a petty immature person who cannot put down a grudge that has no logical backing who hides behind a veil of thinking you've done some good to world. At least the chief is upfront and honest of his reputation, and has some charm; you are scum.

"A gentleman will not insult me, and no man not a gentleman can insult me."

Ornery wrote:BTW, while you're up on your pro-lowbie cross, can you tell me how the lowbies in New Roanoke would've felt if we hadn't shown up and let THEIR town get leveled. since thats what the cheef does when he raids a town, levels it. That town would've quit, you hypcrite. Surely another victory for Paul's reasoning.

Valid point - this does seem to be a contradiction. I felt it was a necessary cost for the eventual payoff. After the fact, I would have reimbursed the citizens for the damage caused with silver, if they were still around.

mckags wrote:How about making me and six other active players who have nothing to do with what you are talking lose months of their time because of your need for revenge? You've made me lose at least 300 hours of work on my personal plot, plus the ingame money I bought for it.

The true strength of a raiding group is the gears behind the scenes, who keep them fed and able to fight. You knowingly chose to associate with criminals, and your hands are not clean.

mckags wrote:You've just given all my work to the chief and pals, who most probably have already spent it on themselves. You've made their characters almost unstoppable with the highest level of agriculture that were on our plots.

You are mistaken on this count, sir. They are not working your farms. They have torn them asunder.

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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby colesie » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:20 am

You know you're desperate when you quote anything from the Bible.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby Ass_Kraken » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:23 am

Ikpeip wrote:I have no reasonable responses to anything in this thread and further my standing as the highest authority of *****, behind darnokpl

A++ job champ, keep up the good work.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby Ornery » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:24 am

Oh, so you did make them quit. Truly, Paymaster Paul is friend to the little man.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby staxjax » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:25 am

The true strength of a raiding group is the gears behind the scenes, who keep them fed and able to fight. You knowingly chose to associate with criminals, and your hands are not clean.


Dude, we all made our own food...every single one of us. There was no 'gears behind the raiding group'. Get a ***** clue, I already explained to you how we operated on the tour I gave you.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby mckags » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:27 am

You know nothing about GH.
Each player had their own farms and nobody fed each other. I used to explain it to new players as a bunch of hermits living around a production area. My cabbages are there, hundreds of them to bring some of their characters to 200. Like I said, there were good players there, more than few victim to betrayal like yours, you've managed to become the worst betrayer ever, betraying a village of people you don't even know.

Anyways, my players are still alive, in a new vault. First thing first is to recover some of my things. From the cold dead bodies of noobs. Maybe I'll larp as an escapted convict, I've never played the bad guy before. I'm sure you must be enjoying it despite your denials.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby colesie » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:33 am

mckags wrote:You know nothing about GH.
Each player had their own farms and nobody fed each other. I used to explain it to new players as a bunch of hermits living around a production area. My cabbages are there, hundreds of them to bring some of their characters to 200. Like I said, there were good players there, more than few victim to betrayal like yours, you've managed to become the worst betrayer ever, betraying a village of people you don't even know.

Betrayer of people who offered you a shot in a very successful village, at that. It would be equally as despicable if you'd done the same thing to the Chief and the tribe. People welcome you into their villages in Seatribe games with a certain level of trust and you should just be happy that anyone is willing to give you that shot in the first place because no one owes it to you in the slightest.
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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:49 am

mckags wrote:My cabbages are there, hundreds of them to bring some of their characters to 200.

Hoarding is no virtue.

mckags wrote:First thing first is to recover some of my things. From the cold dead bodies of noobs. Maybe I'll larp as an escapted convict, I've never played the bad guy before. I'm sure you must be enjoying it despite your denials.

A recurring theme, from both you and some others in your village, is that you are going to prove me wrong by proving me right. This is not logically rigorous, nor very persuasive.

colesie wrote:Betrayer of people who offered you a shot in a very successful village, at that. It would be equally as despicable if you'd done the same thing to the Chief and the tribe. People welcome you into their villages in Seatribe games with a certain level of trust and you should just be happy that anyone is willing to give you that shot in the first place because no one owes it to you in the slightest.

If anything can be viewed with clarity in this matter, it is that I had no interest in living among you thugs. I also feel you continually inflate the success of your town:
-The recruitment was lackadaisical - a group of HnH veterans should have been much more wary and disciplined. The outrage that subterfuge was used is also curious, given that in my short time in Gallow Hills, one of your members proudly boasted about his former HnH villagemate (from "Odditown" I believe) who opened the gates to several villages in the exact same manner.
-The defenses were simply lazy. Not to belabor what has been detailed elsewhere, but your town bell could have been protected with the most minimal of investments.
-The layout was designed in such a way as to offer a direct line to your hearthvault. A coordinated attack could bring it down within 61 seconds of entry.
-Your intelligence work is incomplete. You have a spy within the Tribe (which again, is inconsistent with your condemnation of such tactics), who should have been able to alert you that something major was occurring the night Gallow Hills fell. Even if they hadn't known specifics, at the very least knowing your spy had been forbidden from Ventrilo for the night should have indicated you needed someone on alert.

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Re: In Which I Come Clean

Postby staxjax » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:57 am

We do not have a spy in the tribe.
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