[Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby sabinati » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:16 am

EnderWiggin wrote:and few pages need to be renamed, or redirects created - like Shrooms-on-a-Stick - they actually called 'Shrooms-on-a-Stick in game, with quote symbol.


ok, i've moved (with redirect). i suppose i need to make moves available to regular users. in the meantime, let me know of any others.

EnderWiggin wrote:Oh, and about wiki search - currently when you search for a short period it shows wiki results, and then they change to Google. Is it supposed to work that way?


well the google search results are loaded asynchronously via javascript iirc, so that is the reason for the delay. i wanted to keep the standard wiki search results, at least for a while, since i wasn't sure which would provide better search. right now I think having both is nice.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ramuller » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:52 am

sabinati wrote:
EnderWiggin wrote:and few pages need to be renamed, or redirects created - like Shrooms-on-a-Stick - they actually called 'Shrooms-on-a-Stick in game, with quote symbol.


ok, i've moved (with redirect). i suppose i need to make moves available to regular users. in the meantime, let me know of any others.

EnderWiggin wrote:Oh, and about wiki search - currently when you search for a short period it shows wiki results, and then they change to Google. Is it supposed to work that way?


well the google search results are loaded asynchronously via javascript iirc, so that is the reason for the delay. i wanted to keep the standard wiki search results, at least for a while, since i wasn't sure which would provide better search. right now I think having both is nice.

Please keep the original search, if only for the entry that says page does not exist, do you want to edit it. Also, sometimes having fewer hits is a good thing (google gets stuff like the sematic wiki property pages.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby watcher2554 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:22 pm

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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Yes » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:30 pm

watcher2554 wrote:So I'm doing a simple search for nail..what do I get, first item listed, "Cosmetology School"..next item listed, "Local Nail Salons"

What the hell does that crap have to do with Salem. Why do I, as the paying customer, have to wade through Google Adds just to find the information that is readily available (without the Google Adds) on any other games Wiki. Why am I forced to search on Google for what I want. If that is all this Wiki is, a linked Google Page, then I might as well use Google.

This game is free, you aren't a paying custumer. Or maybe you wanted to write "playing". This is an unofficial wiki. Other wikis have ads too. Who forces you to search on google? Ok, I think you are maybe drunk or something.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Procne » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:42 pm

Yes wrote:ther wikis have ads too. Who forces you to search on google? Ok, I think you are maybe drunk or something.

Those aren't standard ads.
Wiki search has been modified to use google search, probably to save on resources. As a side effect, search results which google adds as ads are also displayed.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby sabinati » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:42 am

watcher2554 wrote:Google and Google Adds in the wiki.

I understand that you are using the wiki to boost the Salem Presence on Google...smart Idea...the bad part, pisses off the player base, like me.

So I'm doing a simple search for nail..what do I get, first item listed, "Cosmetology School"..next item listed, "Local Nail Salons"

What the hell does that crap have to do with Salem. Why do I, as the paying customer, have to wade through Google Adds just to find the information that is readily available (without the Google Adds) on any other games Wiki. Why am I forced to search on Google for what I want. If that is all this Wiki is, a linked Google Page, then I might as well use Google.

Inovate in a possitive direction that benifits the customer and client.

Disapointed.

Watcher.


i am using the wiki to provide information about the game to the player.

the ads are fairly obviously ads and you can just scroll past them? if you'd like to be "a paying customer" you can pay me $100 and i will disable the ads from the google search. google provides a better search engine than mediawiki does, so i added the google search. it comes with ads. deal with it.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ramuller » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:26 am

watcher2554 wrote:Google and Google Adds in the wiki.

I understand that you are using the wiki to boost the Salem Presence on Google...smart Idea...the bad part, pisses off the player base, like me.

So I'm doing a simple search for nail..what do I get, first item listed, "Cosmetology School"..next item listed, "Local Nail Salons"

What the hell does that crap have to do with Salem. Why do I, as the paying customer, have to wade through Google Adds just to find the information that is readily available (without the Google Adds) on any other games Wiki. Why am I forced to search on Google for what I want. If that is all this Wiki is, a linked Google Page, then I might as well use Google.

Inovate in a possitive direction that benifits the customer and client.

Disapointed.

Watcher.

Even if you were a paying customer of Paradox/SeaTribe, that doesn't do anything for the maintenance of the wiki or other fan sites.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:58 am

Just be glad it's not being hosted on a wiki site best not named. Then you get all that annoying crap and even slower wikis.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby sabinati » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:05 am

MagicManICT wrote:Just be glad it's not being hosted on a wiki site best not named. Then you get all that annoying crap and even slower wikis.


*shudders*
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ramuller » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:06 pm

sabinati wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:Just be glad it's not being hosted on a wiki site best not named. Then you get all that annoying crap and even slower wikis.


*shudders*

When that site first started, it was a wonderful place to base a wiki. But they kept "improving" it and now, I am saddened everytime I need to go back to one of the wikia on that site.
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