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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby Shiala » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:34 am

How many compost bins are you trying to fill by yourself? I have 3 of them and it's not problem at all to keep them full. I send my husband out to kill a couple of deer for me, which he can easily find right near our place, and just toss all of the meat in the bins. There are always tons of deer near our place and it only takes a few seconds to kill one.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby MonkiePoop » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:17 am

You say multiple deer...

A few turkeys require multiple WHOLE DEER...... that is my point.

For 3 compost bins sure I guess.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby Slayblaze » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:23 am

Keep in mind that like a lot of things in the game, once you get past a certain tipping point things really start moving along nicely - much more so than it seems at first. The thing with compost bins is that once you really get them filled all the way up, you start to be able to "get ahead" since they can only hold so much. I know this might sound counter-intuitive, but if you're having trouble keeping your bins full then you need to build more bins. It takes some time to ramp up production, but you'll hit a point where you start to generate more compost than you need, the more bins you have. I maintain 12 bins of my own and could easily probably double that, it's just that I don't need any more currently. Out of my 12 only 3 of them are "zero purity" and the rest are all specific high purity elements for different specific crop purposes.

Also plant more crops than what you need, because you can then feed the seeds into the bins for compost. This also lets you slowly build the purity of your composts for fertilizing better purity crops, and it becomes a self-sustaining cycle. You can also feed your Turkeys from your un-needed crops, which is another good reason to over-plant.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby Shiala » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:43 am

MonkiePoop wrote:You say multiple deer...

A few turkeys require multiple WHOLE DEER...... that is my point.

For 3 compost bins sure I guess.


My point was that if it's just you doing everything, maybe you're trying to produce too much crap for just one person to manage. If it's not just you living there and you're the designated farmer, someone else should be helping with that task. Compost bins use up their fuel so slowly that I find myself just topping them off every couple of days. The fuel level never gets below 50%. I don't have a turkey coop so I have no idea if they go through a full thing of food daily. If one coop of turkeys is chewing through multiple deer every day, you might have a legitimate gripe. If a full thing of food lasts 2-3 days, I really don't see the problem with tossing them what amounts to 1 deer a day.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby imrielle » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:01 am

Shiala wrote:If a full thing of food lasts 2-3 days, I really don't see the problem with tossing them what amounts to 1 deer a day.


Wild Turkey's don't go through a full food bar in 1 day, or even 2-3 days, domesticated may be different (I haven't gotten an egg yet to see, just turkey poop. Lots and lots of turkey poop... now you know what that "special flavor" is in the corn I've been growing...).
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby staxjax » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:51 am

Grow **** crops, and compost all the food and seeds from them. Getting compost/turkey fodder is not that hard.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby imrielle » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:28 am

Turkey Coop Values:
All Steaks: +4
All Cuts: +2
Meat Shreds: +1
All Mushrooms: +1
Stray Chestnut: +1
Wood Choppings: +0.5

And now my coop is full again and I can't test anything else. :p
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby Potjeh » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:23 am

staxjax wrote:Grow **** crops, and compost all the food and seeds from them. Getting compost/turkey fodder is not that hard.

I advise cereal. Lots of seeds for compost, and you need to grow it anyway for hay to push influence on your "real" fields.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby Kaol » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:41 pm

Shouldn't this be in help?

Also its not hard at all to fill composts and you don't need to grow turkeys either, i can't be bothered with turkeys so i just don't keep them.
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Re: It takes too long to fill compost and coops.

Postby Nixman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:51 pm

imrielle wrote:Turkey Coop Values:
All Steaks: +4
All Cuts: +2
Meat Shreds: +1
All Mushrooms: +1
Stray Chestnut: +1
Wood Choppings: +0.5

And now my coop is full again and I can't test anything else. :p


I'm currently working on the food values, if you check the discussion page of the turkey coop on the wiki I put a table on there which once more complete can be moved over to the main page.
For clarification the capacity of a Coop is 200, compost bin is 50. A single Deer will give you 7 meat shreds, 6 cuts and 4 steaks (with butchery skills) which is 68% of a compost bin or 18% of a Coop. so your looking at 5 Deer to fill a coop if your explicitly using deer to fill them not to mention a ful coop packed with turkeys will last quite a while. Enough to compensate the hour you need to hunt deer.

Turkeys imo should require some extra effort, they provide a top end food (which could do with a little bit more of a buff) but for the sake of a few animals or as someone else mentioned, cheap crops, its not all that hard to keep them fed.

MonkiePoop wrote:Also, the wiki needs all the help it can get.


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