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Lost Bile [Solved - Crime related]

Postby Aprimell2 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:30 pm

question. Do you regain bile lost after been put in stock?
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Re: Lost Bile

Postby Aprimell2 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:31 pm

i gained a fed-up debuff of 30 days from stock also...
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Re: Lost Bile

Postby Nsuidara » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:35 pm

somebody throw Big Red :)

http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Big_Red
Received by chance when harvesting Tomatoes. Big Red can be thrown at a criminal in the Stocks causing a significantly higher Full and Fed Up debuff compared with a regular tomato.


for reduce biles in stock...
many thinks reduce... Tomato... rot fruits... w...

you can't regain biles when lose in stocks...

ofc. you can made gluttony session

edit. i remember when Bodz have 100+ rot fruits.. and throw somebody and reduce 100+ points biles... somebody...
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Re: Lost Bile

Postby Aprimell2 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:47 pm

it is very unbalanced the cost of doing crime vs the effort needed to capture a criminal.. it is extreme unbalanced. i think persons trying to capture criminal need to work much harder to get them
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Re: Lost Bile

Postby Judaism » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:50 pm

Many people agree with you there, however thats not the devs point of view. They have nuked raiding/crimes gradually and do not intend to fix it any time soon, not on Providence atleast. There are ways to stay out of the stocks and you could still buy yourself out after two hours for around 2000s with a release chart.

Do crime -> expect a harsh live with it very likely to be your end, atleast character wise.
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Re: Lost Bile

Postby Aprimell2 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:01 pm

i believe that if u want to summon a criminal u need to get directly to his lento or claim stake no more that 1 block away from it. when police want to get you they have to go directly to you to do so.. it should be the same since the game is already so close to reality and if me the criminal is online of coarse we would have to fight first before u can attempt to capture me. and scents should not lead directly to the criminal or his lento but most likely to a next evidence and u need to get a certain amount of evidence before u can find him or his lentos . also criminals should be able to at some time period after doing crime go back and wipe the evidence from the spot.. give the criminal a fighting chance
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Re: Lost Bile

Postby Dallane » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:30 pm

Aprimell2 wrote:i believe that if u want to summon a criminal u need to get directly to his lento or claim stake no more that 1 block away from it. when police want to get you they have to go directly to you to do so.. it should be the same since the game is already so close to reality and if me the criminal is online of coarse we would have to fight first before u can attempt to capture me. and scents should not lead directly to the criminal or his lento but most likely to a next evidence and u need to get a certain amount of evidence before u can find him or his lentos . also criminals should be able to at some time period after doing crime go back and wipe the evidence from the spot.. give the criminal a fighting chance


There are quite a few people who agree with how you feel. They are wanting to rework how crime and raiding works at the moment so any thoughts on how you think that it could be improved or changed would be welcomed. Get a well thought out post together and post in the idea section.
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Re: Lost Bile [Solved - Crime related]

Postby Chrumps » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:13 pm

Actually it is pretty easy to raise a throw-away criminal alt. I'd say the resources used to stock and load with F&F debuff are on par with resources to build or restore a 100+bile throw-away alt.
For example:
Putting into stocks 500s
Being stocked for 24 hours gives 7-9 levels of madness (that is: Kandarim client shows 7-9 next to masks). 6 doses of tobacco =450-700 s in stalls. Remaining madness can be removed for free.
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Re: Lost Bile [Solved - Crime related]

Postby Nsuidara » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:26 pm

i little don't agree with you boys... why?
because, when player have good BASE(house) it's rly easy made low or middle criminal alts...
but build new BASE(house, pclaim) you need spend many times... build walls... rebuild pure pots... fields...
need rly a lot time
when raid no need a lot time.... for destroy all this thinks...
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Re: Lost Bile [Solved - Crime related]

Postby Judaism » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:40 pm

What are you talking about, low criminals won't be able to break houses or any objects since that would require arson. To me it seems you are not making much sense and confusing multiple things together.

In terms of proper raids, it usually takes multiple days to break any serious base and requires multiple bashers, alongside many tankers and in most cases assuming the defender did set-up properly you won't be able to secure your scents and will have to deal with whatever consequences.

But yes, low criminals shoudn't care much about the stocks but once you are talking about proper criminals, the stocks can hurt and server restarts are sadly still happening, staying 24/7 online is the only thing to do in most cases.
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