Rimworld

[Flame]

Give me back the time where one could find a legal Demo of the game, and i will not need to find that game elsewhere and test it out before pay his full price.

Is Rimworld worth his price?
No.
How do i know this?

Homemade demo.

[Rifmaster]

Well the NQ mod apparently changes that, the rationalism tree becomes a choice rather than a must have.

Oh and no the liberty tree is just ****.
It gives you a free worker and a free settler, a very small production bonus, +1 happiness for each city connected to the capital and the only partially good one is the one that lowers the social policy culture increase cost per city by 33%
Meanwhile Tradition gives you 4 free monuments, 4 free aquaducts, +2 food and +10% growth in the capital and +1 gold and -1 unhapiness per 2 citizens in the capital, and +15% growth in all cities.
So unless you are going to have 6 or more cities which is a bad idea in multiplayer if you have a turn timer, the liberty tree is just worse.

Again as I said before. It's a preference and a strat. Depends on the civ and what you want to do with them.

If you are going wide then you don't need to worry about growth.

The fact that this convo is happening is proof you have never beaten diety outside of babylon.

I have never played Babylon, but I did beat deity with Morroco twice.

[TotalyMeow]

Give me back the time where one could find a legal Demo of the game, and i will not need to find that game elsewhere and test it out before pay his full price.

Is Rimworld worth his price?
No.
How do i know this?

Homemade demo.

Today we have review sites, collected user reviews, demo videos, tags, game descriptions, let's play videos. You should be able to decide without stealing the game if you will like it before you play it. Especially a Steam game where it does all the work for you and the reviews are right there on the game page.

[Forungi]

Steam actually has a perfect system for that because you can refund it if you havn't played for 2 hours.

Almost like a demo.

[Dallane]

I have never played Babylon, but I did beat deity with Morroco twice.

So you went for a tall trading and diplo strat?

[Rifmaster]

I have never played Babylon, but I did beat deity with Morroco twice.

So you went for a tall trading and diplo strat?

Lots of trading and a good start with flood plains and a mountain. Diplomacy not needed, just a nuke on the cap of the closest competitor to the space victory.

[Dallane]

I have never played Babylon, but I did beat deity with Morroco twice.

So you went for a tall trading and diplo strat?

Lots of trading and a good start with flood plains and a mountain. Diplomacy not needed, just a nuke on the cap of the closest competitor to the space victory.

lmao that works

[Flame]

A video isn't a demo, and reviews can't tell me if the game is worth it.
Not that reviews are useless or video are bad. I use what i have from the web to see if i want that game or i don't want it.
Afterall search for a torrent is half a suicide, since you can find... quite everything aside what you're searching. Not the first choise, then.

I watched hours of let's play of The long dark and checked if my pc were able to run it. Then i tried it.
Then i bought it.

What's "funny" in a game often can't be seen from a video. You can't neither be sure that the guy of a review have your same tastes.
A good example is Salem. I would never try Salem watching a video or reading someone say that it is "great, wonderfull, amazin". 'Cuz Salem looks terrible and i would think "It's H&H2".
Well. It is. And is not.
Details in the gameplay are important, in a game.

Nothing is better than have a demo and try those details by yourself.
(Or play a free game. like Salem is. Well. Examples are examples. XD)
Some games use the "free period" event, some other publish a light version and some other create a small demo. I'm one of the ones that would play a demo first.

A demo is not ALWAYS needed. Some games are just what you see and nothing more.
But games like Rim World, so clone games, are... a bit complicated to judge from a brief video.

And it isn't on Steam. Or it wasn't, at that time.


Have you ever tried a game in a friend house?
That's the same. The small difference is that i can the buy the game, instead of ask to my parents.
If i like it.

[saltmummy]

A good example is Salem. I would never try Salem watching a video or reading someone say that it is "great, wonderfull, amazin". 'Cuz Salem looks terrible and i would think "It's H&H2".

No, salem is a bad example. At least coming from you it is, because the only thing you'd heard about it prior to playing it was from me, telling you not to bother. That was before I knew mortal moments had gotten their hands on it of course, but still. I tried salem not because you thought it would be good but because you wanted a free alternative to hafen, back when hafen was still pay to play. You decided to ignore me and try salem anyway. Personally, I'm glad you did. I never would have come back if you hadn't once again assumed I was full of **** and ignored everything I said. You didn't watch videos and the only review you had was my scathing one of back in the beta.

[Flame]

Nah, there is only one reason why i played Salem. 'Cuz my friends were going to join me in a short time and 'cuz it was free (so i could give it a try without any money loss).
I think you know how i am. Salem in a "forever alone" mode would not have any appeal for me, and if it was pay to play that was definitly a No, just like H&H2.

I didn't played World of Warcraft, because i want to OWN what i BUY. I rarely buy online games.

So the Salem example was in the idea that no friends were playing it, and so no "superior power" (aka, friendship) would attract me in it.
You know this quite well, that's why i called it "an example".

To make it clear: what i say is that Demo were important and are important. And safer to download. If i have to choose between a full pirated game and a legal demo of that game, 100% i would choose the demo. Also i would never share the pirated game, or let other download through me. That's simply "No, i can't know why you're doing this, so i will not share it."
I know that i will buy the game if i like it.
Or i will trash it if i don't like it.
That's not legal and ther's no way to say otherwise. It isn't even immoral in the way i do it, since if i can't try a game in the "maybe" edge, i would just forget it. I've bought more game in this way than with a simple video or review. So, in the end, i gave more money than how much i would have give without a try of the game.
Afterall, i payed Salem through the shop only after i played it. I'm not playing Salem so much, lately, but i have no regrets, since i payed what i enjoyed.

It works for me.
Can't know if it works for others.
It all depends on how much one wish to be legal in the long run, and i rather like to stay in the green area with a bit of controlled swerves.