It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby Darwoth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:40 am

belgear wrote:Sooooo
What do you suppose should be done?


ho ho ho what a silly question!

obviously we should let millions of them into the country, convert to islam ourselves, give them all our money and then patiently wait in line to be murdered like all the social justice warriors have been preaching while profusely apologizing for bleeding on their clothes, i mean duh.

or we could do like others have suggested and start by keeping more from entering the country en masse along with making it so that our borders are not so porous that a battalion of anyone could march across undetected. but that would be "racist" and "xenophobic" plus american citizens have no right to their own country so ***** that lets just go with the first option!

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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby belgear » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:48 am

Sure, I am all for isolationism. It's something we should have returned to immediately after WWII. Too bad we don't have the production values or educated forces to make it ourselves anymore :(
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby Darwoth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:52 am

yeah i agree that is why i suggested we go with option 1 like you are implying since a bunch of uneducated muslims that the taxpayer gets to foot the bill for, do not speak english and literally are a few months removed from living in a pile of rocks will greatly help that end.

and after all we can not have a secure border without severing all trade ties with the rest of the globe, they are 100% mutually exclusive.
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby belgear » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:13 am

As Hillary was nominated as the Democratic candidate Trump is bscly a sure thing so that wall you are talking about has a pretttyyyy large likelihood of being built
I just don't think it is going to do a dang thing to help the situation. Might keep out Juan-Carlos, tho. That pesky ***** has been doing a **** job on my flowerbeds. He is basically a terrorist, right?
Don't get me wrong I am all for taking a "***** you fix your own problems" stance with the rest of the world. I am just a little uneasy doing so when we rely so heavily on other countries for basically... well, everything.
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby Darwoth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:29 am

i am so tired of people trying to categorize someone who wants a secure border and to keep the 30+ million illegals here out of the country as a "bad guy" competing with jose for his low tier job. it has nothing to do with that at all, at least not for me or anyone else above an 80 point iq level. it has to do with lessening the massive financial drain on the country they create, keeping their decade old narco war on that side of the border, not giving the ***** democratic party more power in elections off of the weight of those who should not even be here and adhering to the same set of rules every other person who immigrates here has to abide by along with not having wide open borders that currently let anyone with ill intent muslim or otherwise slip through completely undetected.

not sure what i rely on illegal immigrants for, i do most of my own auto repair the **** i cant do is two old native american dudes, had a plumber out a while ago he was a white guy, last time i hired a contractor to do something was about two years ago when i needed a steel out building put up. was a white guy and two "mexicans" that both spoke perfect english, had valid ID and were outsourced from a reputable company based in arizona. in other words they were here legit and paid taxes instead of sneaking across the border in the middle of the night with a drug shipment and wiring all of their gray economy cash back to mexico, they did a good job and were polite and i would hire them again. why is it "bad" to not like the notion of anyone who wants to simply walking on in and doing as they please?

if a mexican wants to live here they can go through the process, gain citizenship or a temp work visa and pay taxes like everyone else. again, why is that a problem?

when i lived on the east coast the town i lived in was absolutely destroyed by illegal immigrants in a span of less than three years because of a construction boom in the area, when you get up each morning and EVERY WEEK see a parked car smashed in because some drunk mexican that does not have a drivers license plowed into it and then find out the owner is ***** because it was a hit and run or that the guy who plowed into it had no insurance, go into a gas station and suddenly realize you are the ONLY person out of 20 that speaks english, have your wife, sisters, nieces continuously stared down and eye ***** everywhere they go, have aggressive "vatos" continuously try to start **** where you are engaged in a half dozen physical altercations in under a year and have to explain why you hosed down a crowd of punk ass mexicans with your bear repellant that got up in your **** to the responding law enforcement let me know. because that is the reality of what unchecked immigration brings, not a bunch of noble individuals just looking to reshingle my roof and cut my lawnm which is a job that should indeed go to the uneducated proletariat of THIS country not one from mexico that is here illegally, still collects welfare, pays no taxes, sends his money out of the country instead of keeping it in this economy, has no desire to assimilate into american culture and does not abide by ANY of the same rules that everybody else does.
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby belgear » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:13 am

It's not. It's the way it should be. I put the illegals on the same level I do people who work (or hire workers) under the table. Juan-Carlos is actually born on our soil with a social security card and his own landscaping business. His mother was not, but that doesn't really matter at this point cause she is dead. (His father was white, also dead) Juan-Carlos should not have been here in the first place, but the guy is as American as anyone else is. (Seriously the dude throws a mean 4th of July party. His work ethic is also definitely American. I wasn't lying when I said he has been slacking on my flowerbeds. His 2nd child just came tho so I have to cut him some slack. Dude looks sleep deprived as ***** and one of his siblings (a college graduate) and I are kinda a thing so he cuts me a deal)
Either way my point was the wall isn't going to stop terrorists it's going to stop illegal immigrants. (Which I am completely fine with.) I kinda find the idea that Trump will get Mexico to pay for it laughable but I will believe it when I see it.
Overall what I am worried about is not the refugees or the wall being built, what I am worried about is the Muslims that live here experiencing enough hate and prejudice that they end up radicals themselves.

Dammit you added more 1 sec. Sorry typing on phone so it takes a million years.
Hokay

Those Mexicans you've experienced sound like assholes. On that same token those I have experienced have been pretty decent. (Specially in comparison) still does not give them leeway to be here illegally imo but I do wholeheartedly believe that there are plenty who do just want to improve their circumstance and realize the american-dream that the rest of the world (for some reason STILL) admires
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby Paradoxyc » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:23 am

Yep, sad to see that every innocent Muslim is on the whipping post because a radical, small Muslim group is causing big problems across the world.
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby Darwoth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:25 am

belgear wrote:It's not. It's the way it should be. I put the illegals on the same level I do people who work (or hire workers) under the table. Juan-Carlos is actually born on our soil with a social security card and his own landscaping business. His mother was not, but that doesn't really matter at this point cause she is dead. (His father was white, also dead) Juan-Carlos should not have been here in the first place, but the guy is as American as anyone else is. (Seriously the dude throws a mean 4th of July party. His work ethic is also definitely American. I wasn't lying when I said he has been slacking on my flowerbeds. His 2nd child just came tho so I have to cut him some slack. Dude looks sleep deprived as ***** and one of his siblings (a college graduate) and I are kinda a thing so he cuts me a deal)
Either way my point was the wall isn't going to stop terrorists it's going to stop illegal immigrants. (Which I am completely fine with.) I kinda find the idea that Trump will get Mexico to pay for it laughable but I will believe it when I see it.
Overall what I am worried about is not the refugees or the wall being built, what I am worried about is the Muslims that live here experiencing enough hate and prejudice that they end up radicals themselves.

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and that is just it i do not have a problem with the juan carlos in your example (not a fan of the anchor baby ****, but until the law is changed thats the way it is), quite the contrary if 30 million guys of that caliber want to come here, assimilate into and become americans i have no issue. you (and to a much higher degree some others here) continuously mislabel me as some white guy that wants to keep all the non whites out which is just tired and annoying at this point as that entire angle is not even part of the equation.

when the muslims here stop advocating for sharia law instead of american law, stop dancing in the streets of new jersey when the towers fell, and take an active/vocal role in condemning the terrorism instead of largely remaining silent then they will be looked on with less suspicion.
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby belgear » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:35 am

Hey now I don't think you hate non-whites I think you hate everyone.
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Re: It's just a coincidence they're muslim right?

Postby Darwoth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:43 am

well that is basically correct, and my ambition is to buy 200 or so acres on top of a mountain somewhere that is not an hour removed from civilization with my own personal "wall" while i am still young enough to enjoy it :lol:
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