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Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:02 am

So this is sort of exploding over here right now in the news today and I'm interested in hearing from our forum users in Russian and Ukraine.

Here are the facts:

1. The FBI and NSA are reporting that the same Russian intelligence group that tried to hack the Joint Chief's, The White House and the State Department is responsible for hacking the DNC and that there is now specific intelligence that Putin gave the order to release the DNC emails just before the democratic convention to hurt the democrats and help Trump. Obama is supposedly in talks with the EU to implement and begin more sanctions against Russia because of it after the DNC convention later this summer. Obama met with the heads of the CIA, NSA and FBI yesterday after the leaks came out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/po ... v=top-news
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe

2. Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort worked for Victor Yanukovych during his 2004 presidential campaign against Yushchenko after the Orange Revolution when Yushchenko was poisoned by Russian intelligence with dioxin in a salad he ate in Moscow. Manafort worked in Ukraine for a decade for Yanukovych, a pro-Russian Ukrainian steel oligarch named Rinet Akmetov and a Russian businessman named Oleg Deripaska both of who have connections to Russian intelligence.

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/a ... nd-his-ti/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych

3. The Washington Post and New York times are apparently preparing to write stories that show that Trump's main reason for not releasing his tax returns is because they show that he made more than 500 million dollars in recent years in various business ventures with pro-Putin Russian Oligarchs that is now hidden in hundreds of shell companies. His connections to these companies is supposedly why he is being audited from last year.

4. Trump's name appears more than 3,540 times in the 'Panama Papers' more than any other person on earth.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation- ... 89322.html

5. It's now coming out that Paul Manafort is also connected to wealth generated by shell companies owned by pro-Putin Russian oligarchs and pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarchs. His connections were revealed in the 'Panama Papers'.

http://fusion.net/story/328264/paul-man ... onnection/

6. Trump stated in an interview with the New York Times last Wednesday that he may not support other NATO nations if they are invaded by the Russians. Obama met with the ambassadors of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia within a day of it being reported that Trump said this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/po ... ssues.html

I’ve heard this sort of speech a lot in the last 15 years and trust me, it doesn’t sound any better in Russian.

-Gary Kasparov (Russian opposition leader and former Chess World Champion) commenting on Trump's acceptance speech on the last day of the Republican convention.


https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/7 ... 9390086148
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Inotdead » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:09 am

Puppet? Unlikely.
Partner? May be.

Trump is actually quite popular in the post-Soviet block. Between him and Hillary he would win there by a landslide.
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:21 am

Inotdead wrote:Puppet? Unlikely.
Partner? May be.

Trump is actually quite popular in the post-Soviet block. Between him and Hillary he would win there by a landslide.

He's a puppet if Putin puts him into power though right? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Darwoth » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:57 am

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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Heffernan » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:59 am

This Topic is why Aliens refuse to talk to us...
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Inotdead » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:13 am

Claeyt wrote:He's a puppet if Putin puts him into power though right? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I guess? But I think you are putin too much faith in his authority
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Forungi » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:15 am

The terror rises from scary Russia for sure ¦]
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Inotdead » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:17 am

Forungi wrote:The terror rises from scary Russia for sure ¦]


You laugh now, but soon enough you won't be
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:07 am

So you guys are saying that the FBI and NSA are lying about the Russians doing this now and on purpose?
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Re: Is Trump a Russian puppet?

Postby Forungi » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:47 am

Claeyt wrote:So you guys are saying that the FBI and NSA are lying about the Russians doing this now and on purpose?


It's best to rather remain neutral and analyze the situation.

Should you really blindly trust whatever NSA is saying considering they have been secretly spying on the entire world for god knows how long.
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