Munich

[Adelewhy]

in american you get them on TELESHOPPING and in WALMART, so guess what will happen...

Liberals want you to think it's that easy. It's actually not.... I've stopped in to buy ammo at Walmart. Sure they "carry it" but they NEVER get it in (except shotgun shells used for clay shooting). Had an equally hard time getting ammo at gun stores (but I do live in a liberal state so go figure). Ended up having to go to a gun show. Which those happen once a year and require IDs and all that jazz (rightly so). But yeah... guns are not candy and they're not handed out like candy in the states either. That's just propaganda by the gunhaters put out there to try and get more antigun legislation

[Darwoth]

yeah the entire argument is retarded and uttered by people with no idea what they are talking about, when you buy a gun from wal mart you go through the exact same steps and background checks that you do when you buy one from a gun store. and no, you can not buy one on the home shopping network

[Kralith]

It does not matter how difficult it is to get a weapon, if you like to do bad thing, you will find a way to get one.

Humans meant to be humanely, but at the and they are just a bunch of egoists and hateful individuals.
And humans are just bigheaded to their supposed intelligence.

As long the world has humans on it, there will be hate, cruelity and destruction.

Also, not a single weapon can prevent the human sense.
It is just suitable to a supposed security of your own small place and for a revenge if someone does bad things to you.

---------
Yes, i'm a human who tried to be good with other humans around me and i try to care for them as good as possible.
And i'm glad all my friends in Munich are OK.
But to be glad about this is just an egoist thinking of me.
Because i continue living like i did it before.

[Claeyt]

yeah the entire argument is retarded and uttered by people with no idea what they are talking about, when you buy a gun from wal mart you go through the exact same steps and background checks that you do when you buy one from a gun store. and no, you can not buy one on the home shopping network

Yes, Walmart actually does background checks unlike 40% of American gun sales between people which are not required to do background checks.

As for the shooting in Germany. Because of Germany's gun laws they have only a .07 gun murder rate compared to the U.S.'s 3.43 per 100,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... death_rate

If the U.S. had Germany's gun homicide rate that would mean we would have had around 222 gun murders last year instead of around 11,000 gun murders last year. That's over 10,000 people who would be alive last year in the U.S. if we had Germany's gun laws.

Yes there still would have been terrorist attacks, yes there still would be murders. There just would have been 10,000 less gun murders last year if we had their laws and their amount of guns per capita.

It's really not an argument anymore. Denying that gun laws work is like denying global warming. You just look like an idiot when you promote more guns in any society.

[belgear]

lol stop Claeyt plz

[belgear]

it's too much omg

[Dallane]

Holy **** what a ***** idiot, he used wikipedia as a source AGAIN LOOOOOOOOL.

The stats he just quoted were from 2012 for germany and 2014 for usa from some random source in australia.

[Claeyt]

Holy **** what a ***** idiot, he used wikipedia as a source AGAIN LOOOOOOOOL.

The stats he just quoted were from 2012 for germany and 2014 for usa from some random source in australia.

The stats haven't changed much since then. All stats like this are usually 2-3 years back because it takes a year or 2 to compile them.

Are you saying the numbers are wrong?

____________________________________________________________________________________________

As for the stats coming from Australia. The U.S. congress under the Republicans, under the orders of the NRA has made it impossible to do gun studies in the U.S. because it has stopped funding and blocked funding from going to Universities and other government funded organizations that are trying to study the problem.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik ... story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sto ... years-ago/

I use Wikipedia because it's easier to see multiple countries. Here's some other sites saying the exact same thing.

...about the U.S. number:
The Center for disease control: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
The Everytown movement: https://everytownresearch.org/gun-viole ... e-numbers/
The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/news/databl ... e-us-state
CBS report on World Health Organization studies: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun ... countries/

...about the German number:
GunPolicy.org: http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/germany
Nationmaster: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... ates/Crime

As you can see in this chart from gunpolicy.org, German gun deaths plummeted after their own tougher gun ownership restrictions started taking effect in the late 90's:



German gun ownership actually isn't that hard. It's a 3 month training course, a license similar to a driving license, gun locks or gun safes are required and the guns must be listed with the government. Of course it's limited to hunting rifles, shotguns and pistols.

[Heffernan]

and no, you can not buy one on the home shopping network

you were saying?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ng-channel

[Darwoth]

exactly what i said the first time you stupid *****, you do not "call up and buy a gun" just like you do not "buy guns on the internet" if that channel ever comes to fruition it will consist of a federally licenses dealer having to ship the weapon to another ffl where you have to show up in person and do the exact same paperwork that you have to do at wal mart, the gun store or a gun show.

the only time you do not have to fill out paperwork in this country when buying a gun is when buying a used one, that is because private citizens do not have access to the NICS system and because the gun is already registered to "someone" who is generally expected to get a photocopy of their ID and keep it on file if engaging in a private sale. this is why the police are still able to track weapons used in crimes regardless if it came from "wal mart" or your local billy bob.

you are a moron and know nothing.

in other news 372,000 people die a year due to drowning. better ban water and sheeeit.