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[Darwoth]

the orlando club had an off duty who returned fire which is why the shooter left and re entered a different portion, which is where the majority of the casualties occured thanks to the exits being barricaded by idiots like yourself.

the uzi was originally designed in the 50s and has undergone zero design improvements since then, our own agencies stopped using them in the early 80s and even israel has begun to move on which is why they dumped all their surplus on the US civilian market the fact they are currently utilized widely in europe along with mp5s in open air photos where they are ineffective like the ones you are scouring the internet for was the entire point with regard to european agencies being 30 years behind the curve *****

aside from comments about muslims i really am done, every single ***** thing you say has been gone over here and proven incorrect several dozen times previously ad nauseum and all you are doing is the same **** you always do, prove the points being made against you time and time again then deny it and hope everyone forgets before you open another infammatory topic as a smokescreen and come back 5 pages later to say the same **** again.

since the majority of americans, comparative analysis, the bill of rights and anyone with an IQ over 70 disregards you i will to. the real reason people like claeyt hate guns is because they can not force their agenda on an armed population, this has been the case throughout history and thus is always the first thing they attack. it is why we can not have a thread about muslims that does not turn into claeyt ***** about guns.

[toddesloan]

This guy tried to buy guns but couldn't. He used a truck. If he had had guns then he would have killed even more.

I dunno man. In retrospec I bet the police officers would have much rather fought a non trained idiot with a few guns versus a damn semi truck....

The more I think about it there is no way he would have killed that many people in that scenario with a gun. Even 2 guns. Especially solo with no training. He would have been shot down via officers pretty fast.

Run the physics. Run the logistics, especially non trained and reload times.

A semi truck traveling at a decent speed for 1 mile running over people compacted in a confined area >>>> a single shooter (untrained) on foot with 1-2 guns.

[Darwoth]

as a footnote now that the injured result has been tallied along with the killed we are up to 84 dead and 202 wounded in under 30 seconds via truck vs 49 dead and 54 wounded in orlando over three hours via gun, which of course was another episode of islamic tolerance and peace.

also this

"Estrosi told BFM TV that "the driver fired on the crowd, according to the police who killed him."

this is yet another example of claeyts ***** spin that he does because myself and others grew tired of him a long time ago and do not bother. the story he read that the guns were '"inoperable" was from this tabloid:

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160715/ ... rable.html

note the headline says that inoperable guns and grenades were "INCLUDED IN" the evidence recovered (likely because he intended to reactivate them at some point), not that he was armed with inoperable weapons because he "couldn't get a gun and would of killed waaaay more people if he had a gun" the way claeyt tried to lead everyone to believe for the past few pages.

the same article, which he neglected to mention also said this.

the truck driver was armed with a small gun and shot several times before being killed.

[Dallane]

it is why we can not have a thread about muslims that does not turn into claeyt ***** about guns.

Exactly. This was a anti Muslim thread. Plz stop derailing as usual cleaty

[Flame]

Dallane, read you first post, You troll. XD

[Dallane]

Dallane, read you first post, You troll. XD

Zero trolling. I asked when they will stop letting muslims into the country to kill their citizens.

[Claeyt]

Dallane, read you first post, You troll. XD

Zero trolling. I asked when they will stop letting muslims into the country to kill their citizens.

And instantly talked about gun control in Europe.

[Claeyt]

This guy tried to buy guns but couldn't. He used a truck. If he had had guns then he would have killed even more.

I dunno man. In retrospec I bet the police officers would have much rather fought a non trained idiot with a few guns versus a damn semi truck....

No, I agree. I meant to say that if had actually been firing out the window with any gun or been in a gun fight at the end there would have been more deaths.

[Dallane]

Dallane, read you first post, You troll. XD

Zero trolling. I asked when they will stop letting muslims into the country to kill their citizens.

And instantly talked about gun control in Europe.

There is already a thread to talk about gun control. You should take the advice that was given before and post in there if you want to talk about how gun control doesn't work.

[Flame]

Hum, but gun control and more gun isn't almost the same topic? If you ask (and i ask too) to not talk about gun control here, is also do not talk about gun at all.
Afterall, terrorism isn't a gun, so there is much more to say about terrorism and really a few to say about gun related to terrorism.

Stuff like.. for example: "What should the government do" or "how was he connected with isis" or also "who created isis and how to stop it to grow more" or "how he managed to keep in contact with isis" or "was it a solo plan or someone hired him for that plan" and other stuff like this.

I can't care less how he killed and wich weapon he used. It is shocking etc etc, but after a few hours it should be normal to start to think at something bigger. Isn't it, for you?