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[DarkNacht]

...and if they had such weapons, I bet muricans sold it to them, cause muricans sell guns to everyone because of reasons...

Why bother buying from America when France is so loose with it military sales that they kept selling to Russia even as they cried about Russia sending weapons into Ukraine and France can't make guns fast enough to keep up with their Middle Eastern sales.

Sure, they didn't have guns to protect themselves, but guns are not the answer to everything.
Just a few days ago abunch of your murican cops got whacked by a guy with a gun, and with your logic he should have been dead right away since everyone and their grandmother is carrying.

Most poeple in the US don't own let alone carry guns and while they may not be the answer to everything they are the answer to someone trying to kill you.

[Darwoth]

LOL you people are hillarious.

Sure, they didn't have guns to protect themselves, but guns are not the answer to everything.
Just a few days ago abunch of your murican cops got whacked by a guy with a gun, and with your logic he should have been dead right away since everyone and their grandmother is carrying.

pretty sure you are the source of hilarity, nobody said a gun fixed everything or made one bulltetproof ***** and it certainly is better to have than have not when facing someone intending to do you in.

the cops were sniped by an angry black guy with military training on the top floor of a parking garage in the middle of a hectic protest of tens of thousands of angry black guys, took a bit for them to identify the threat, when they did he was promptly cornered and then blown up.

in france or another disarmed country it would have been 50 dead instead of 5, you know. like usual.

[Claeyt]

As always, I'll point out that France's murder rate is 25% that of the U.S. and their violent crime rate is half that of the U.S. yet their regular crime rate is equal to or greater than the U.S. This and many, many, many other studies prove over and over that less guns mean less homicides and less violent crime. It is the equivalent of denying man made climate change to deny that less guns mean safer societies.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... ates/Crime

I've heard that they had a gun but I have not heard about grenades. I heard they only had a pistol.

the cops were sniped by an angry black guy with military training on the top floor of a parking garage in the middle of a hectic protest of tens of thousands of angry black guys, took a bit for them to identify the threat, when they did he was promptly cornered and then blown up.

in france or another disarmed country it would have been 50 dead instead of 5, you know. like usual.

French police are armed almost exactly like U.S. police. Why would you think that they're not. It would have been the exact same outcome in France.

[Darwoth]

oh god claeyt is here, we have entered the full retard zone where no matter how many times he is proven wrong he regurgitates the exact same thing every third page as he cycles through the same four cut and paste "arguments"

and, no french police are not "armed similarly". certainly did not grow up shooting like the average texan cop did and your desire to argue irrelevant semantics to create a "disagreement" that you think you can win is why i skim the first and last sentence of your posts before disregarding it, like i did just now.

the reason it would be different in disarmed countries is the reason why history shows that it IS different, here the shooter had to perch on top of a building hundreds of yards away to get his kills to avoid getting plugged prematurely vs just walking down the street mowing everyone down which is the typical situation overseas, there were even legally armed pro second ammendment black folks in the protest that would have shot the guy had the situation presented itself. one of them gave his own ar15 to a nearby cop.

[Flame]

why any "terrorist" organization would want to do "terror" attacks

I'ts propaganda. A minority needs a way to scream their ideas. When the majority can't hear, the minory usually blows things up or kills dudes. It's called Rebels, and all rebels usually uses terrorism tactiques.
That's the "why". They don't aim to change our mind, they aim to strenghten the mind of who need the terrorists to express their ideals.



Also is astonishing how you guys put the "gun" topic into everything. When i'll bake a pie and post a photo, you can argue that it's gun free if you like.
That's the same as here. Totally unrelated topic. If i imagine that situation and i add a gun to every single dude there.... i see no difference. A truck strucks you from behind while you're having a party and that's all.
I suppose we can start to talk about how the terrain was too much dusty so that people didn't saw the truck, or how the trees where to few so that the truck had chance to drive through them.
Fantasies for a gun dreamer that see the world through a metal pipe.

[Claeyt]

oh god claeyt is here, we have entered the full retard zone where no matter how many times he is proven wrong he regurgitates the exact same thing every third page as he cycles through the same four cut and paste "arguments"

and, no french police are not "armed similarly". certainly did not grow up shooting like the average texan cop did and your desire to argue irrelevant semantics to create a "disagreement" that you think you can win is why i skim the first and last sentence of your posts before disregarding it, like i did just now.

the reason it would be different in disarmed countries is the reason why history shows that it IS different, here the shooter had to perch on top of a building hundreds of yards away to get his kills to avoid getting plugged prematurely vs just walking down the street mowing everyone down which is the typical situation overseas, there were even legally armed pro second ammendment black folks in the protest that would have shot the guy had the situation presented itself. one of them gave his own ar15 to a nearby cop.

French gun laws are actually not all that strict for hunting. You can own guns there and I'm sure all French police are trained with guns. The only place I've ever seen regular police carrying sub-machine guns as a regular weapon is in France so I don't know where you're getting that they aren't as armed as American police.

As for the Dallas shooting, have you followed up on the map of where he was? The guy was on the second floor of a parking garage and maybe 20-40 yards away and above the initial group of cops he sniped. He then moved to the ground floor and killed 1 or 2 more there. The French Police would have had nearly the exact same armament and active training as the American police for that situation so I don't know why you think it would be any different.

As for the Nice massacre, I did just read that he had weapons and grenades in the back but I still haven't read anything more than that he was shot and used a pistol from the front seat. I'm sure nearly all the deaths and injuries came from him barreling down a crowded sidewalk at 40 miles an hour with a large truck for a mile and a half. This was preventable as both French and American police have been using movable cement blockers in just this situation but I'm sure it would have been hard to prevent. I know they use them at sporting events and other things in the U.S. but not always for just regular use.

[Darwoth]

you tried this same argument last year. i responded with a video of a french police offer whom was apparently not allowed to be armed being cut in half by a terrorist wielding an ak47 you then tried to have the post deleted like usual.

i am not even going to bother entertaining your "french hunting laws" tripe since you as usual have no idea what you are talking about and it has absolutely zero bearing on anything whatsoever.

[Claeyt]

you tried this same argument last year. i responded with a video of a french police offer whom was apparently not allowed to be armed being cut in half by a terrorist wielding an ak47 you then tried to have the post deleted like usual.

i am not even going to bother entertaining your "french hunting laws" tripe since you as usual have no idea what you are talking about and it has absolutely zero bearing on anything whatsoever.

If you're talking about the Charlie Hebdo shooters opening up on that police car in that skinny street than how is that different than an American cop driving down that? I have no idea if you're talking about that but that's the only Ak-47 shoot out I've seen from France.

I've been to France. Every cop is armed with a pistol just like in America and a lot of the time they have other weapons so I have no idea why you think they're somehow less armed than American cops. I've seen French cops carrying Uzi's with shoulder straps outside the Louvre and around Paris along with pistols so I have no idea what you're talking about, there are no unarmed cops in France. The UK was the last holdout on that and they armed all their cops like 15 years ago from what I've read so I have no idea how any French cop "wasn't allowed to carry a gun" as you think. That seems pretty stupid to say.

[Flame]

french police offer whom was apparently not allowed to be armed

Weird. French is well known to be well armed, compared to the eu states, and here in Italy i see the police totally armed. If you're a police man, you have to be armed.
What you've looked could be a simple private guardian.

Police without a weapon is hardly true, Darw. They must carry a gun, it's a strict rule, since the gun is the chance to get in action if something happens. If a police don't have a gun, then is negligent and i don't see a reason to why a police man should be negligent about it.

Therefore, there are many smaller "police-like" dudes, wich aren't police at all. Personal guards, simple door keepers, etc etc. They wear their own uniform but they aren't a government army, and you could have been confused by it.

[Claeyt]

Therefore, there are many smaller "police-like" dudes, wich aren't police at all. Personal guards, simple door keepers, etc etc. They wear their own uniform and you could have been confused by it.

We also have unarmed security guards in America along with more trained private armed guards for stuff like banks, and such. It takes a training course to openly carry as a security guard for insurance reasons for the companies employing them in nearly all states in America.