UK Leaving the EU?

[Darwoth]

i am not defensive i genuinely do not understand what you are asking me or telling me most of the time so i just troll you instead of continuing the discussion.

[Flame]

Can you fairly say that my last post was so hard to understand? Be honest with yourself, it wasn't. XD
You're so stuck in your trolling attitude that most of your post are missing a real meaning. They are just... uhmm... rowdy.

I know you weren't like this, some time ago. Or so i heard.

Since you decided to troll me, I'm interested in know you. A good way to know you is let you say what you would do.
I see that you post a lot about politic things, but in definitive i don't see any plan or idea from you. No strategy, no path, no planning. If i have to imagine you as a president, i can't see any idea in your words.

Maybe you don't care to have a plan. It could be that you just have fun in talking and express yourself about these things, but i want to be sure if that's the case.

[Darwoth]

what are you trying to "discuss" i pointed out that the european union is nothing more than a globalist oligarchy and that britain is far better off having left it. i do not care if you agree or not so there is no debate to be had because i do not live there and thus do not give a **** beyond having said my piece.

[TotalyMeow]

You're so stuck in your trolling attitude that most of your post are missing a real meaning.

He seriously asked you some questions before and you responded, "You never listen to anything, Darwoth, so I'm not going to answer you!". Can you blame him for not wanting to 'discuss' things with you if that's your idea of discussion? Not just that, but most of your posts just go off on tangents until they almost make no sense at all. You constantly talk about how you want to talk about things and learn about people and how this is all so amusing to you, and you never actually end up saying anything relevant. I know it's been annoying the hell out of me having to read it as a moderator.

Maybe you don't care to have a plan. It could be that you just have fun in talking and express yourself about these things, but i want to be sure if that's the case.

It's a forum. It's a game forum. Don't expect any big, sweeping plans.

[Flame]

Whut?
Uhmm...

Mhh...
Then there is a big obstacle.

He seriously asked you some questions before

I believe you.
But i don't recall any serious question.

The problem could be that you and i can't see when each other are serious or not. I see darwoth avoid my questions all the time, usually. I ask him some serious question and he doesn't answer.
His "questions" sounds like if he's just trying to fooling me with the only purpose to say "i'm cool", so i ignore those and i try to get to the point. Those doesn't looks like real questions.
A sort of never ending loop where no one of us take into count what the other says, probably, since i suspect he feels the same towards me.
A filter. Maybe a cultural, habit, filter?
I was starting to sense the presence of a big "bug" in all these debating, because i could not believe that everyone are used to talk without any purpose. It was too much weird.

Point the finger against something is not a debating (or so is in my habit).
Point the finger and say "You should do this!" is a debating (it involve some suggestion or some ideal that lead the debating. It doesn't need to be deep, but a rough idea usually pop up anytime there's a debating of any kind).

I'm always missing the "You should do this!" part from darwoth posts. From many US posts, actually.
What's weird is that i CAN see that from TotallyMeow posts though. I respect your way to express yourself, even if i often disagree. So i believe you when you say that i'm missing the questions or the answers.

That's the opposite of what i want, so it's not good.
I'll try to find someone to help me pinpoint the problem. That's indeed a wall i would crush to be able to talk with foreign people.

At this point i can only say that my intent was positive, if you want to believe me, but my knowledge in foreign habit is too scarce to decipher you enough.
I've probably gained you're hating by this time, but i don't regret what i've tried to do. There are not other ways to know things, only try and see if it works.

[Darwoth]

you are over complicating things, you should join your countries movement to leave the european union and leave as did britain. if that does not work then you should move to a different country if you value your personal liberty, if not then remain and argue with people like me on the internet about it.

[Flame]

That post is something i can finally feel right.
It's not deep (because we are in a game forum) but it's concrete, or maybe just easier to get for me. Thanks.

I'm not going to join a "leaving the eu party" for now. I indeed disagree with that distort concept of "union" that EU would force us to join, BUT i'll take my time to choose what to do specifically.

If i imagine a "Big Eu United", all i can think is "Oh, wonderfull. A big gun at the service of US. I'm sorry Russia, you should probably nuke us before that. Do what's good for the world!"
But, obviously, i don't want to die, so i rather prefer to avoid that union and save myself from a Brix conflict. XD

For now, though, i will not let my fear drive me in a raw movement.
In the meanwhile, i write down a list of "Which country should i move to?" (Maybe in the deep sea in a submarine. That would be great! 8D)

I'll watch what happen. I can't take a strong decision, for now.
I'm sure that the time will force me to take a decision, soon or later, and i'll probably choose what's best for my family, since i feel that i can't be enough helpful for my beloved human being.


Anyway i think i have nothing more to share here of useful for you. If it happens that there are some other news, i'll read it.

[Darwoth]

move to britain, i would of said america but we do not need anymore liberals.

[Flame]

Fun fact: i don't know what are those Liberals. XD

I know that are one of the two parties and i have a really generic idea of what the two parties want, but I intentionally avoided to read more, in order to not get influenced.
I don't want to derail the topic That Much, but if you have some spare time, tell me (via mp, maybe) what I share with the Liberals.
Then i'll go to read what they think and i'll try to see if I agree with them and I'm a Liberal or if I'ts just a mistake and i simply resemble them in some way.
If you don't want, is fine. No problem.

[Darwoth]

well the term is misused, so it is confusing. liberals are actually the opposite of "liberal" in the majority of their viewpoints.

i guess the best way to put it in perspective and give you an american point of reference would be claeyt. claeyt is a hardcore liberal, america does not need anymore claeyts.