UK Leaving the EU?

[saltmummy]

[Heffernan]

its not even a problem its the solution to the slavery under wich they got put by the EU

[DeepSixed]

I'm happy a majority of the UK took back their Sovereignty...

If only the US would do the same.

[TotalyMeow]

I don't know why people keep talking like ALL of Scotland voted in. It was 60/40. I'm sure plenty of the people in Scotland are happy about this and quite possibly celebrating along with other parts of the UK. There were celebrations being televised on the news earlier.

[Strakknuva225]

I don't know why people keep talking like ALL of Scotland voted in. It was 60/40. I'm sure plenty of the people in Scotland are happy about this and quite possibly celebrating along with other parts of the UK. There were celebrations being televised on the news earlier.

And the remain growd has gotten quite salty. Some say that the guy who said he'd kill himself if he saw Nigel Farrage's face all over his Twitter went through with it.

[DarkNacht]

I don't know why people keep talking like ALL of Scotland voted in. It was 60/40. I'm sure plenty of the people in Scotland are happy about this and quite possibly celebrating along with other parts of the UK. There were celebrations being televised on the news earlier.

Because it doesn't matter what everyone wants just what most people want, so with the UK leaving the EU there is a decent chance that most Scottish voters may now want to leave the UK.

[TotalyMeow]

Because it doesn't matter what everyone wants just what most people want, so with the UK leaving the EU there is a decent chance that most Scottish voters may now want to leave the UK.

Yeah, but with regard to:



It seems a bit silly to assume that just because the majority voted 'in' that no one in Scotland could possibly be celebrating leaving. Sure, they might actually leave the UK over this. It would be a bad idea though.

[Flame]

None of them are doctors, none of them are engineers.
They are educated enough only to be manual labor.

Maybe this was true in 1950. Now is the opposite of true in 2016.
The problem is that they ARE engineers and doctors, but they are used to have half of the moneys we get for the same job.
I can tell this for sure, since Italy is one of those "emigrant countries". Many italians go to England.

There are a lot of big companies recruiters from England and North Europe that search for Italian, Spanish and Greek engineers for their jobs, because we have a lower salary.
They offer us a salary that is doubled, compared to the one we get in Italy. They offer us an easy import in the country they want and so some of us move there.

The problem is:

1 - Our salary is not That much "low", since our cost-of-living is also low.
2 - When we move in the new country, we then realize that the new salary is "lower" than the standard salary of THAT country.
3 - This way, the company pay less and gain an engineer of the same level and experience of the ones he could search in HIS country.
4 - The average salary of that country drops down and after a few years, engineers salary average go down for the northern country.
5 - And, sadly, the salary for an Italian is not enough to come back.

You can apply this reasons to Italy>England but also INDIA>Italy, because India have lots of highly expert people ready to move. (Since i work with engineers, i know some about that kind of experts, but i believe this is happening for all the high salary jobs.)

I can well see that this is a BIG problem for the common people for the WHOLE Europe.
We don't gain that much, since the cost-of-livin of the northern countries is higher. The india's people in Italy don't gain enough to go back to India, since the cost-of-living of Italy is higher than India.
That's just a gamble, basically.
The only gain is for big companies and that's only a smaller reason why EU is considered an Economy Tiranny.

[saffgee]

happy to see the british asserting themselves, maybe this will be the start of britain regrowing their balls.

Nope. If we had any balls we would have told the EU what we are changing and how things will work in Britain and the EU in the future. When they (inevitably) turn around and threaten us with expulsion we laugh in their faces and say "bring it".As France and Germany are so desperate to keep their precious EU stable they would give in....THAT'S how you get things done in the EU. "Voting" to leave just means 3-5 years of bore off negotiation and endless legal waffle about meaningless and trivial clauses, with the net result that the British economy crashes and Europe (and maybe the world) gets dragged down with it.

As to the actual leave vote. Just ask Norway how excited they feel about having to pay into Europe anyway without even having membership - this also changes the grand total of nothing for immigration either, as the big issue in the UK are our former commonwealth countries, so Africans, Arabs and Indians/Pakistanis. I know people have focussed on the Euro workforce as the bad guys, but 99% of them pay taxes and stay mobile - ie if job prospects in the UK are poor they will move to another country. The others from outside the EU tend to arrive and then stay forever regardless of how the economy fairs and it usually takes them a far longer time to add anything substantial to that economy, all the while making prodigious use of our free healthcare and social benefits, before bringing their extended (non-working) families over as well. I'm not saying these issues are really substantially different for any other country in the world nowadays, but that's why it's certainly not a problem that is primarily due to our EU membership. It is literally the first time in something like 40 years where Britains economy has improved to the point where it is more attractive than the likes of Germany and France - which to be fair has resulted in some fairly substantial migration to the UK from across Europe, but people forget that we Brits have been going the other way for pretty much 40 years. For us then, at the pinnacle of this monumental achievement of getting to top spot, to decide that our best course of action is to completely and utterly destroy everything we've built over the last 40 years is literally staggering (and laughable really). The UK has economically NEVER been a better place to live than now and we have had the most success we've ever had at shaping EU policy over the last 2 years - we even had the rotational EU presidency coming up in the second half of 2017 which we could have used to try and push through reform. Don't even get me started on how this was even allowed to be put to a vote on simple majority and that 16-18 year old's weren't allowed to vote at all even though its their future we were deciding !

But hey - the common man in this country clearly knows better than pretty much ALL the worlds foremost experts on politics and economy and has spoken loud and clear with his 50/50 voice.

[Darwoth]

sounds like you have a problem with making england great again, go sit on the curb and pout next to claeyt ya little globalist.