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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby Flame » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:45 am

TotalyMeow wrote:It honestly sounds like Flame is saying, "We can't judge the beheading of a four year old because we weren't there and don't know what really happened, maybe they thought they were doing the right thing because their culture is different. We can't judge their culture."

Which is kinda horrifying. Sure every culture's idea of 'right' is a bit different and I can accept that, but I have to draw that line at murdering small children. There's really no way to justify a culture that believes that is okay.


No, don't fear this. It's not my point of view, it's darwoth point of view about what i say. And probably, the point of view of who is interested into this kind of discussions.
The opinions on their culture is an endless debating with no concrete plans. All you need to know is that i condemn the murdering and this should appease you about this topic.
Talk about what i think is good or bad is not useful since I don't have the skill to explain you clearly my point of view. It's strongly rational, hard to explain properly. It's deeply different from the one you think i have, if you wish to believe me.

My only care is about what we plan to do concretely. I think we should start to propose our plans, or the plans we agree with.
So i will stick into talk about Plans or Facts.

I'll try to explain my point of view the day i can write a proper post without mess with your brain. For now, suspend your judge about "what Flame's think about murders", since you got it deeply wrong.
It's not important what i think, but more what we plan to do.

I admit that I see that i'm probably the only one here thinking that plans are abode ideals, so it could not fits well in this forum.
To my eyes, this is the 4th topic about the same argument, even if they have different titles. The whole debating is looping into the "I think they are evil, i think they are not" and i see no result from this kind of debating.
I think we can talk about plans, and judge the effectiveness of the plan, instead. I.. really don't care the factions. If a plan is good, is just good.
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby Thor » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:35 am

Murdering people in the name of whatever religion is bad. Period.
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby Argentis » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:50 am

Thor wrote:Murdering people in the name of whatever religion is bad. Period.


Murdering people is bad. Period.
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby GigiBecali » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:09 am

Murdering is cool, killing should not be illegal under some circumstances
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby Flame » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:18 am

Pretty much, therefore is pointless.

What you wish your country do next about this foreign crisis?
(Or let me know if this topic is of no interest for you and you prefer to debate about what's good or bad.)
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby rustles » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:59 pm

Darwoth wrote:thought crimes


How is this allowed in 2016?
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby jakhollin » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:30 pm

Despite the insanity of ISIS. Muslim people are for the most part peaceful in other stable communities. The true answer to resolve the problems over seas is for us to invest time and effort in building schools and hospitals for them. Once they realize they can have it better they will stop fighting over foolish things. Also they cant recruit as many people because the people will hate them for killing when things are good. Lets be honest people are people and most all of them want some peace.


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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby TotalyMeow » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:41 pm

Schools and hospitals? I'm not sure if that particular propaganda ploy will work in the middle east.
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby Argentis » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:05 pm

GigiBecali wrote:Murdering is cool, killing should not be illegal under some circumstances


There's a difference between murdering and killing. The only way killing is OK for citizens is if it is in self-defense or for the preservation of innocents people in the heat of the moment. Premedidated killing is never ok.
Then you got the question if it is ok for the government to execute dangerous criminals to which I would answer yes but only if there is irrefutable evidence and if the condemned is judged sane.
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Re: Muslims Behead 4 year old girl

Postby Argentis » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:06 pm

jakhollin wrote:Despite the insanity of ISIS. Muslim people are for the most part peaceful in other stable communities. The true answer to resolve the problems over seas is for us to invest time and effort in building schools and hospitals for them. Once they realize they can have it better they will stop fighting over foolish things. Also they cant recruit as many people because the people will hate them for killing when things are good. Lets be honest people are people and most all of them want some peace.


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The infrastructure is not the problem. You can build a hospital but then who is gonna run it? Do you have doctors to hand over too?
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