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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Flame » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:38 am

The amount of criminality in a country is always NOT related to the amount of weapon in that country.
Criminality born fro society, not weapon factories.
But this was enough logic and obvious. I think. If not, that's new to me.


Anyway
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Back to Darwoth.

"so like we should do whats right man, but they think they are right so who is right?"

I see.
Hem. Dude. That's not what i've written.
The subject are ME and YOU (Or you faction and my faction, whenever faction i'm in)
YOU think that you're right, and I think i'm right.
"They" aren't in my message. That should be clear because i said: "Something must be done".
So WE must do something.
But "WE" is divided between two (or more) ideas of what must be done and what is more effective.

That, though, explain your silly question about "what would you do if you were there?"
That sounded like a drunk rantle about how we can't do nothing or how everybody are evil. (Since the answer to that rantle is obvious and i said many times that my life or other life is precious, so i would defend it)
You already know this. Since i said this to you before. (i know, you don't read what i write, but that's mostly your problem)
That question wasn't a question, just an expression of your indignation.

But.
We aren't there.
You aren't there.
We are in front of a pc.
You will never be there, since the girl is dead.
You don't know who were them.
Or where this happened.
Or who was the woman.
So we can't literally do nothing, directly.
That's just immagination.
I was talking about reality.
I care to talk about reality.
Those fantasy talking are useless to achieve anything in the reality.
If you're really counting on that to "win" a discussion, that's another fantasy.
"I would defend the girl" <--- You won. I'm evil.

But the girl have died.
And me, or you, are at a pc, debating about relativism of what's "good" and "bad".
That's not what i aim to use my time for, my apologies.

What i said in my first post was: We must do something. We are divided about what should be done.

You now know what i think should be done. (i wrote it a couple of post after the begin).
You now know (again) that i would also defend a girl if i was there. And, even knowing that, nothin change in the Reality, since we'll never be there in our whole life.

When you'll be ready to discuss about reality and real things, let me know.
Since then, farewell, dust chasing cowboy.
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Darwoth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:54 am

Flame wrote:The amount of criminality in a country is always NOT related to the amount of weapon in that country.
Criminality born fro society, not weapon factories.
But this was enough logic and obvious. I think. If not, that's new to me.


Anyway
------------------

Back to Darwoth.

"so like we should do whats right man, but they think they are right so who is right?"

I see.
Hem. Dude. That's not what i've written.
The subject are ME and YOU (Or you faction and my faction, whenever faction i'm in)
YOU think that you're right, and I think i'm right.
"They" aren't in my message. That should be clear because i said: "Something must be done".
So WE must do something.
But "WE" is divided between two (or more) ideas of what must be done and what is more effective.

That, though, explain your silly question about "what would you do if you were there?"
That sounded like a drunk rantle about how we can't do nothing or how everybody are evil. (Since the answer to that rantle is obvious and i said many times that my life or other life is precious, so i would defend it)
You already know this. Since i said this to you before. (i know, you don't read what i write, but that's mostly your problem)
That question wasn't a question, just an expression of your indignation.

But.
We aren't there.
You aren't there.
We are in front of a pc.
You will never be there, since the girl is dead.
You don't know who were them.
Or where this happened.
Or who was the woman.
So we can't literally do nothing, directly.
That's just immagination.
I was talking about reality.
I care to talk about reality.
Those fantasy talking are useless to achieve anything in the reality.
If you're really counting on that to "win" a discussion, that's another fantasy.
"I would defend the girl" <--- You won. I'm evil.

But the girl have died.
And me, or you, are at a pc, debating about relativism of what's "good" and "bad".
That's not what i aim to use my time for, my apologies.

What i said in my first post was: We must do something. We are divided about what should be done.

You now know what i think should be done. (i wrote it a couple of post after the begin).
You now know (again) that i would also defend a girl if i was there. And, even knowing that, nothin change in the Reality, since we'll never be there in our whole life.

When you'll be ready to discuss about reality and real things, let me know.
Since then, farewell, dust chasing cowboy.



so you still do not condemn the muslim terrorists that cut a four year old childs head off, again i must inquire if you are yourself a muslim.
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Flame » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:06 am

i said many times that my life or other life is precious, so i would defend it


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If you write a lie, that's just a plain lie.
Try better.
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Darwoth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:25 am

Flame wrote:
i said many times that my life or other life is precious, so i would defend it


^ ^

If you write a lie, that's just a plain lie.
Try better.



i have not lied once, merely asking you questions that you refuse to answer.

and sure lots of people would defend "certain" lives, but thus far you will still not condemn those who lop of four year old heads or state whether you are a muslim or not but instead chose to argue ***** for 4 pages so i do not think you can fault anyone for being confused as to where you stand on the issue or much of anything else for that matter.
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Flame » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:28 am

Is quite simple.
I condemn any kind of murdering.
Why should i spare this one?

What makes you think that i spare this one?
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Darwoth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:32 am

i suppose due to the last four pages of your posts, deflection, arguing "who is right" and wide assortment of doublespeak?
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Flame » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:41 am

I answered that two post ago. It's in your last quote.
You misunderstood the subject of the debating since the first post.

In this debating i'm focused on our inner factions, and our inner decisions as West part of the world that want to do something about the east part. So, yeah, this whole debating is about the west factions. No east factions were involved. So we aren't talking about muslims at all. We never talked about muslim in this debating.

You quoted this exact concept a post ago.
Have you read what you've quoted? Read what you quote is quite useful in a debating.
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Darwoth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:52 am

apparently you are the only one "debating" whatever it is that you are "debating"

once again, this part of the thread began with me saying "oh look, more atrocities from the religion of peace this time they cut a four year olds head off" and you deciding to interject with this:

Flame wrote:Someone have died in a brutal way.
Or maybe not.
We should do the right thing anyway, since what's right is right always. Even when people don't die. Even when people die.

The problem, though, is about what we think is right and what we think is wrong. So we are exactly at the same point as before.


followed by the previous four pages of nonsense that has already been gone over where it appears everyone else got the exact same implication from your posts that i did.

to me it looked like your liberal apology reflex kicked in before you knew what was going on which is why i continued to ask for clarification, either way you are a retard and a waste of time.
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Re: The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

Postby Flame » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:06 am

Darwoth, you... .. You really see other person aside us, debating here?
That's... interesting.

Anyway, your quote should be enough clear, now that you know i was focusing on "Fine, what to do then?"

Thanks for the chance to say what i think should NOT be done.
In case there will be a chance to say it, i will say what i think should be done.
Let's meet at the next terrorist attack topic, if you wish.
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