The Second Amendment of the US Constitution

[Darwoth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIfrSmZLQX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khmtMmDfOu0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Ey_hgayNM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnkaz6FvEoA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvbbPZ56WiM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DkoUWtCteY

from coast to coast this IS america, these people are the every day run of the mill AMERICANS that are the bedrock of this country and no matter how much the whiney limpwristed cocksuckers of the world whom are afraid of their own shadows hem and haw absolutely nothing will ever change that, don't like it then pack up your frilly pink panties and move to some nanny state country or a liberal state with our collective blessing to go ***** yourself.

[saltmummy]

Why would one want a cannon? The only places where I've seen cannons actually used were to kick off the start of highschool football games. The schools cannon developed a crack no one noticed and exploded. Proper cannon maintenance is important people. The most disgusting thing about the whole incident wasn't that the cannon exploded, it was that people actually threatened death against the guy who was injured by the bit of shrapnel that nearly ripped his leg off. No one cared that he nearly lost his leg, they just threatened to kill/injure him or his family if they talked about what had happened. Even the "get well" cards were full of threats.

[Darwoth]

Why would one want a cannon? The only places where I've seen cannons actually used were to kick off the start of highschool football games. The schools cannon developed a crack no one noticed and exploded. Proper cannon maintenance is important people. The most disgusting thing about the whole incident wasn't that the cannon exploded, it was that people actually threatened death against the guy who was injured by the bit of shrapnel that nearly ripped his leg off. No one cared that he nearly lost his leg, they just threatened to kill/injure him or his family if they talked about what had happened. Even the "get well" cards were full of threats.

why does one want a car that can go 70 mph, after all the speed limit is 65 mph and this one time i saw a car accident with a guy that had no leg and omg man it was crazy like for reals, and the guy that ran into him? man he was such a jerk d00d he like totally told the guy he hit if he told his insurance company what happened he would run over his other leg!

ban carnonns!


fyi your school did not have a cannon, it had a "signal cannon" (capable of doing nothing but making a big noise vs shooting projectiles) which blow up all the time because the school faculty tend to be idiots and overload them for decades which is why things like that occur.

[saltmummy]

I didn't say you shouldn't own a cannon or that cannons should be banned. I asked why one would want a cannon. I guess to make a big noise or to show off to friends. Or maybe just to have one.
Aya, a signal cannon. It was made by the school in the 80s to replace the old cannon when the old one gave out. The lash out against the injured guy wasn't about cannon ownership, it was about the threat his injury posed to the tradition of firing the cannon at the start of every game.

[Darwoth]

while i do not own a cannon, i might one day simply because "why not" makes perfect sense to me. folks these days seems to think someone needs to justify why they want something to get the approval of every peanut gallery droolcup first and that simply is not how freedom works.

and i do not know the details of your story but id be pretty pissed to if some guy that was collateral damage in an accident was threatening to **** up the tradition.

[saltmummy]

and i do not know the details of your story but id be pretty pissed to if some guy that was collateral damage in an accident was threatening to **** up the tradition.

That was the thing, he and his family weren't threatening anything. Mostly what he was doing was lying in the hospital thinking about if he would recover enough to be able to join the marines. Was a member of the ROTC. I remember seeing him coming out of the ROTC room on the way to visual basic and some girl spitting on him.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/ ... 222900.php

[Darwoth]

well most folks are assholes, does not pertain to cannons in the current context though or why i would/would not want one. come to think of it i would like a cannon simply to make youtube videos of shooting it so i can enjoy all the crybaby liberals and europeans ***** in outrage over it before quoting me about 15 trees worth of irrelevant statistics to "prove" that "nobody NEEDS a cannon!", that alone is worth the obscene cost

or maybe ill go deer hunting with my cannon like this guy did a few years ago.

http://www.buckstix.com/howitzer.htm

[DarkNacht]

wtf are you talking about? Full auto are only rare because of the price. They are made and sold all the time.

You can't just make a new full auto weapon and sell it legally.

1> the weapon must have been registered prior to the 1986 amnesty, which means that the prices are hyper inflated (an acquaintance of mine bought an IMI model b (uzi) that cost 7 thousand dollars MANY years ago, even a mac 10 which is normally a 400 dollar weapon is several grand, you are looking at 15 - 20k for an m16 etc)

2> you must file paperwork with the atf, which then gouges you for a 200 dollar tax stamp and does an fbi background check (the same one everyone already does when buying **** already)

3> you sit on your ass for about 3 months and then voila you have your select fire weapon depending on local laws, some states require your local sheriff to sign off on it etc which is typically not an issue, if you have a douchebag sheriff that does not like guns you will have to form an LLC to take ownership of the weapon.

Evan your arguement of criminals not using guns doesn't matter at all. Who cares what is used to rob someone why in the world would that matter at all in gun control. Are yu saying that people don't have the right to protect themselves?

Are you dense? I was saying that Flame's statements that are written like all criminals are running around with guns so removing them would weaken them was incorrect because most criminals don't have guns. So banning guns would not weaken most of them, as most criminals don't use guns. And that Flame's fear someone might jump through the hoops to legally get an AK and then "erase a square with a kalasnikov" is pointless because while yes you can buy them legally they are a big enough pain to get a hold of that legally bought ones just are not used in crimes often enough that anyone should care about them.
How did you somehow construe that as meaning people shouldn't have the right to protect themselves?

[saltmummy]

or maybe ill go deer hunting with my cannon like this guy did a few years ago.

http://www.buckstix.com/howitzer.htm

Holy crap, that's amazing.
I would totally want a cannon for entertainment. I'd try to shoot all sorts of things out of it.

[Darwoth]

stuff

not sure if your talking to me, dallane or both but if me.....

in my defense i DID say that i had only read like two sentences of the thread (and later that i was not sure who was arguing for/against what upon skimming it) because these threads are just tedious and aggravating by now for me, saw you mention a gatling gun, saw flame mention something, dont know what but know he is someone thats afraid of gun ownership, saw you start playing devils advocate with the stats and so on. pretty much all i had time for and is as deep as i wanted to go.

in any case if you support my right to hunt deer with my upcoming cannon purchase and to wield my "assault weapons" for sport and/or against those who would do me or mine harm than we are on the same team. if not you are a filthy scumbag jerkwagon etc.