i hope claeyt is ok

[Dallane]

That feel when Meow destroys cleaty again and again.

[Darwoth]

hey claeyt, is this guy racist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut35qLJtWRI

[Dallane]

That feel when Meow destroys cleaty again and again.

Stop: Hard bass time
Makes feeling Meow's roasting of the clauge even better


Lets bring up a point I noticed no one broguht up on Claeyt's stupidity. Using stastics that do not compensate for the population between two different nations. Know the difference between the U.S. and France Claeyt? U.S. has around 310 million people compared to France: 66 million people. Christ all mighty I think there is a difference. Not going to bring up the part where gun deaths for U.S. had suicide's by firearms included (Handguns are popular for suicide by gun.).

hey claeyt, is this guy racist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut35qLJtWRI

Aww **** I see that guys **** every now and then. Straight up honest black guy calling out the *amongst us. And he was right on the man who killed that 15 y/o for a piece of chicken: a ^. A ^killed that teenager plain and simple.

Maybe you can't relate to, empathize with or think about the gay community like that but I can. I don't have that many friends who are gay. A quick glance at my Facebook page would probably come up maybe 5-10% as gay.

You're so self-righteous. Just because I wouldn't ban Darwoth for using the word '****', you assume I hate any and all gay people.

Please end Claeyt's ****** now please. He has gone full ****. You can't come back after going full ****.

[Dallane]

hey claeyt, is this guy racist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut35qLJtWRI

I dunno what the hell is in that chicken and i've had some good chicken.

It may be finger lickin good but it aint ass kickin good.

This dude is hilarious.

[saltmummy]

What was it Joe Rogen said? It was unrelated to guns I think but it was something like, "Yeah, we better outlaw hammers too because you can't hit yourself in the ***** if you don't have a hammer."
Also, I don't know about you but when I'm told something has become illegal to purchase/own, it just makes me want to have it more. I can't own a TOZ 123 because of a ban put on them while bill clinton was in office. I didn't want one before I knew it was illegal, but now I do. (TOZ 123 is a civilian version of the KS-23, a russian pump action shotgun that loads a 23MM shell. They were made from defective anti-aircraft gun barrels which were deemed unsuitable for AA use, but perfectly fine for use in small arms.)

Also, I find it absolutely fascinating that meow worked in a machine shop. Always nice to learn something new about the people around you. I would have had hands on with those kind of machines in highschool, but by the time all the OSHA safety testing we had to do was finished, the school year was also over and it was my senior year.

[Darwoth]

hey claeyt, is this guy racist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut35qLJtWRI

I dunno what the hell is in that chicken and i've had some good chicken.

It may be finger lickin good but it aint ass kickin good.

This dude is hilarious.

yeah lol, i watch his videos every now and then lot of them are just classic

it always amuses me when claeyt screams racism when i simply point out reality and then tells me i am "some redneck that never saw a black person" when in reality i am "some redneck that grew up in a town that was 29% black" and "some redneck that has personally known more black folks than i have seen in person"

difference is all the black folks i associated with were country blacks that hated the inner city blacks worse than white folks did, and say all the same **** i do that claeyt crys racism over

i remember as a little kid my first "best friend" growing up was a black girl whos parents would come over to our house and eat burgers on the weekends, i can vividly recall many times where she would do something and her mother or father would zoom out the door yelling about "i aint gonna raise me no nxxxer!" before correcting whatever the problem was.

the guy in the video is merely saying the exact same **** i say.



damn racist black folks keepin the black man down

[ObviousShill]

What was it Joe Rogen said? It was unrelated to guns I think but it was something like, "Yeah, we better outlaw hammers too because you can't hit yourself in the ***** if you don't have a hammer."
Also, I don't know about you but when I'm told something has become illegal to purchase/own, it just makes me want to have it more. I can't own a TOZ 123 because of a ban put on them while bill clinton was in office. I didn't want one before I knew it was illegal, but now I do. (TOZ 123 is a civilian version of the KS-23, a russian pump action shotgun that loads a 23MM shell. They were made from defective anti-aircraft gun barrels which were deemed unsuitable for AA use, but perfectly fine for use in small arms.)

Very interesting information on the shotgun. Did not know they re-used AA barrels for the TOZ.

Easiest thing you can make at home is a slam fire shotgun. Two pipes and one cap. Easier than that is a pipe bomb with two caps and all you need is a basic drill for the fuse. Add bearings or nails and ta dah; instant anti personal device that works great against enemy logistics.

Read a story on /k/ not long ago where a Polish man converted the blanks for a nail gun to fire a 7.62x39 projectile at the same speed of a pistol grade 9mm bullet. May have been around 1,000 or 1,200 footpounds of energy. He used the same concept and produced something like an AK-SU with a folding stock, single burst and automatic fire, and a 30 magazine. On average it took a day to produce 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LC540fKw4

[Claeyt]

France. Another country terrorized by muslims.

...and those guns had to be smuggled in from Ukraine via Belgium.

So, you admit that you're wrong and forbidding guns will do very little to stop criminals from getting guns.

You can be as sarcastic as you want. In every country with stricter gun laws than ours criminals have a harder time getting guns than here. Forbidding guns of course makes it harder for criminals to get guns. 2nd hand no background check gun sales account for most crimes in this country. That means that people legally buy the guns and then illegally sell them to someone else. If we had a Canadian or Australian system those people who had legally bought those guns would have to prove yearly that they either still owned those guns, had legally sold them to someone else using the background check system or had that gun stolen and had reported it to the police.

The Republicans blocked a law like this after the Sandy Hook massacre at the request of the NRA.

As I post these numbers for you, Darwoth, Tmeow and Infinity I hope you guys can finally understand just how extremely out of touch the 4 of you and your beliefs are with the average America.

55% of Americans believed Gay people should be able to marry compared to 35% who don't back in 2014. That number has only risen.

75% of Americans believe that you should not be able to discriminate in employment or housing based on sexual orientation. Currently America is the only modern industrial country that allows gay people to be fired from their job just for being gay.

Aren't there a couple modern industrial countries that allow gay people to be executed? I think the US is actually coming along pretty well when it comes to treating people fairly.

But that's not the point I was making, much as you want it to be. I have nothing against gay people and think they should be treated no differently from anyone else. What annoys me a bit is the insistence that being gay is something that needs to be publicized and paraded about and be proud of. It's just a personality trait and it's kinda a private one. It boggles my mind that you or anyone else identify your friends by the category 'gay' or 'not gay', as if it's important that everyone know that. I don't want to know. I don't want to know if your friends have foot fetishes or enjoy **** either.

Are you talking about gay people being executed for being gay? Why are you talking about killing gay people. There is no modern industrial democracy in Europe, any of the America's or anywhere besides some backwards Islamic theocracies that have anything like that.

Being gay is whatever the person wants it to be. Why should they hide or feel ashamed for who they are? This is the exact backwards thinking that still exists in the conservative extreme that leads to nonsense 'Bathroom Laws'. You might as well ask why mixed racial couples should publicize or not hide who they are publicly. Being gay is not a sexual fetish and IS genetic and comparing it to sexual fetish is just about the worst thing I've ever heard you say Tmeow. Medically it's defined as a genetic predisposition to sexual identity other than heterosexuality. People can be as public as they want to be with it within the norms of society. Should gay people not hold hands or kiss in public because you have a problem with it?

France's gun murder rate is 1/4 that of America's. France's mass murder rate as defined by the FBI as 3 or more deaths by the same person on the same day is 1/10 that of America's.

It would be more telling to just compare straight murder rates. Also, France is nothing like the USA in so many ways that it's difficult to make a comparison and then claim that it's guns that are making the difference.

The second graph does just that. As I said, the gun deaths of a nation (suicide, homicide, mass murder) directly correlates to their gun homicide rates.

Why do you think that France is so different? They have a large minority population. The point is that all, ALL countries that have stricter gun laws than us in Europe have lower murder rates and all countries with similar guns per capita rates like Australia and Canada have seen significant drops in gun murders by instituting stricter gun laws. There really is no argument against the obvious fact that if we instituted stricter gun laws and had strong buy back and guns per capita lowering laws we would be safer and see less mass murder.

57% of Americans disagree with 'Bathroom Bills' that limit where and how Trans-gendered people can go.

I really really doubt your statistic here, but there's a recent thread for this. Go there.

I really really am right here as I also posted the poll directly below it.

False: Trump has dropped 7 points in the last 2 weeks in recent polling.

He's been nominated though, hasn't he. A 7 point variation right now doesn't mean a lot.

It does mean a lot. We've never seen a larger drop than that at this point in a modern campaign in such a short time. He's proving over and over again that's he's fundamentally unfit to be president and he's lost a large swath of even the Republican party with Mitt Romney saying he'll never support him and Paul Ryan again coming out against him today about his Muslim ban. For an example he's now polling neck in neck with Hillary in Utah of all places. They went for GW Bush by 36 points back in 2004.

This doesn't happen in countries with rational gun laws.

So, you claimed something doesn't happen. I claimed it does. You brought out a bunch of statistics that show... I am right.

Nothing proves anything of the sort. ALL THE FACTS proved that countries with strict gun laws have lower gun homicides than in the U.S.

Then you are extremely outside the norm as an American:

89-92% of Americans want universal background checks

85% of Americans think we should close the gun show/craigslist gun sales loop holes.

82% of Gun Owners support more restrictions on owning a gun including tougher background checks.

All you're talking about is background checks, which I never said I was against. They're very easy to do and could be easily set up to be done for any sale.

They could be, yet they've been blocked over and over by your Republican party. Canada's gun laws really aren't even that strict. They have much stricter background checks and strict regulation on sales. You can own a clipped semi-rifle for hunting but you can't own a clip that holds more than 5 rounds. You can basically own as many shotguns as you want but it's illegal to own solid shot rounds. Hand guns are heavily regulated but with classes, background checks and the equivalent of a driver's license. You can also own of those with a clip up to 10 rounds I believe. The Republican party has blocked all of these from happening here in America.

Australia allows all of these but you must register and store your guns with the police and they had forced buy backs. It took them 20 years but it's harder to get a gun there than almost anywhere in the world. Some sitting Republican congressmen not only don't support anything like this but have called for an armed revolution if the government implements laws such like these.

Maybe you can't relate to, empathize with or think about the gay community like that but I can. I don't have that many friends who are gay. A quick glance at my Facebook page would probably come up maybe 5-10% as gay.

You're so self-righteous. Just because I wouldn't ban Darwoth for using the word '****', you assume I hate any and all gay people.

Yes. Especially after your comments above that gay people should somehow go back to hiding who they are. In particular his Darwoth describing what happened in Orlando as '...****'s in a crowd' was bad and that it was allowed here on the forum reflects badly.

What a blow hard. Again, like I said above. She wanted to kick your ass for me but I would have fought your dumb ass either way but you ***** out.

But don't you think it's a little creepy you wanted to meet Darwoth in a gay bar and have him beat up a woman? I mean, really, who would show up for that?

No, that's not what happened. Darwoth said he wanted to meet me to punch me in the face after they legalized gay marriage. I accepted and told him when and where and that if he preferred this lesbian said she'd stand in for me and fight him alone. He never responded after I went and never showed up when we were there and I'd be amazed if he'd do anything of the sort ever as he won't even post a RL pic here on the forums. He's an internet troll and all internet trolls are cowards by definition.

False: Armed societies as I pointed out above have the highest murder rates and the most crime per capita.

That's really not been proven in any study that I've ever seen. I have looked.

False: It's been proven in every study that I've shown here or have ever seen. More guns mean more gun homicides and more gun crimes. That you'd even suggest that that isn't true after the facts I've shown you proves that you are incapable of changing your mind and are simply stubbornly clinging to an increasingly bizarre view of America that includes access to guns like we have now.

As for homemade guns, 3-D printed guns and anything else there is an easy solution. Make it illegal to make, print these types of guns. Gun bans and serious gun restrictions and laws have worked in every major European country, Australia, Canada, Japan. This is just proven. It's no longer an argument.

It won't work. And it hasn't been proven. For example, you can find studies that show the crime rate of Australia has gone down since the gun ban, yes, but if you look at the previous years, it was already going down at the same rate before the guns were banned. Something else caused it.

There is a distinction between the general crime rate (rapes, theft, stuff like that) and murders and crimes using a gun. Canada's crime rate has dropped just like the U.S. but their gun crime rate of murders and theft has also dropped much more than ours. Getting rid of guns or making it harder to own and sell guns doesn't stop all crime but it does significantly lower gun crimes and gun murders as I've shown in at least 4 articles posted here.

[saltmummy]

This is rapidly turning into another of those text wall threads.

Very interesting information on the shotgun. Did not know they re-used AA barrels for the TOZ.

I believe by the time they started manufacturing the 123, they had gone away from re-purposing AA barrels and had switched to just making barrels of ungodly size.
Fun fact; the ammunition loaded into a KS-23, like any shotgun, comes in two forms. Slug and shot. The slugs are made from solid steel and can wreck the engine block of a truck at a distances of 100 meters. The effective range of the KS-23's two types of shot are 10 meters and 25 meters each. It was originally used to suppress prison riots, and shortly after found their way into military use. The police use them now.

[Claeyt]

That feel when Meow destroys cleaty again and again.

???

Destroyed how. She's refusing to see or hear facts that prove my point just like Darwoth.

hey claeyt, is this guy racist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut35qLJtWRI

Who? The black guy talking about a murder in DC?

When are you going to learn that black people are allowed to use an N-bomb if they want but that you are not allowed to use it.

Please end Claeyt's ****** now please. He has gone full ****. You can't come back after going full ****.

On any other gaming forum you'd be banned for the Nazi image and homophobic slurs but not here. Here you're welcomed by the admin's to say whatever you want even if it's homophobic and racist or promotes the killing of Jews during WWII.

Edit: I apologize. Never mind. My bad. I stand corrected. I'd still like to see his image changed and the homophobic stuff gone as well but 'the times they are a changing'.

Also, I don't know about you but when I'm told something has become illegal to purchase/own, it just makes me want to have it more.

In a normal country guns like these are illegal and making them is illegal. Just because you want something that can kill someone doesn't mean you can have it and good luck killing 49 people with a hammer.

Also, as for any home made guns it's just stupid to argue about it. In other safer, more sane countries that regulate guns, you'd be facing years in prison for making or owning a gun like this. That it's allowed in the U.S. shows how backwards we are. If a person is facing years in prison or probation for owning, selling or making a home made gun then they probably wouldn't do it, would they.

This is rapidly turning into another of those text wall threads.

That's how intelligent people communicate.