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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:53 pm

Flame wrote:To me, the hypocrisy is to create a war and keep it going for ages, and than complain when the war strikes back into a minor number of death from our side.
Many years have to pass before what we'll loose will be vaguely comparable on what we have done to the whole east area.

Defend yourself and be aware, since a single man loose in our life is a huge loss, but don't be hypocrite.
Is US that wanted to be their enemies. Expect some bomb here and there, we asked for this so loudly that we are finally "gifted" with the luxury of be in a first line war.

There's nothing worse of feels ourselves totally innocence.
Realism, guys. You can't fight a war with fantasies and illusions.



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you are a ***** moron. comparing a bunch of unarmed civilians being murdered to collateral damage caused by those same cowards hiding behind their population while waging war is not remotely the same thing. when i find your town in game i am going to go full allah akbar mode for being forced to read your stupidity for the last several months.
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby jakhollin » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:03 pm

Heffernan wrote:http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/america-war-93-time-222-239-years-since-1776.html

America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776


its hilarious how even Obama drags the world bigger into war each day and yet he got the nobel peace price



Creating a capitalist empire takes a lot of conquering.
Darwoth wrote:that is about the most ridiculous attempt at sensationalized grandstanding ***** i have ever read, gee who would have guessed the united stated fought the "banana war" for 40 years, much like the majority of the rest of the list where 30 guys fighting a tribe of indians is listed as a "major war" what a total load of ****, i am surprised the "hillbilly war" at the federal park in appalachia was not listed


Actually been reading up on some of these date ranges and there was a lot of major conflict man. Many of those Indian tribes during those years were vast populations that would by definition now days be considered owned and protected territory. It was not acknowledges as such then because Indians were considered savages and unfit to create a civilization without the help of good ole' English people. The wars between Indians and Settlers didn't really get sad and pathetic until just before the trail of tears. Prior to that it took a military effort to fight the Indians.
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby Thor » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:06 pm

R.I.P. Flame. :lol:
saltmummy wrote:You sad sad little man, my heart weeps for you. Better not go outside or your thin, tissue paper like skin might spontaneously rupture while your fragile sensibilities violently shatter spraying salt and urine all over the street.
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby jakhollin » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:10 pm

Darwoth wrote:
Flame wrote:To me, the hypocrisy is to create a war and keep it going for ages, and than complain when the war strikes back into a minor number of death from our side.
Many years have to pass before what we'll loose will be vaguely comparable on what we have done to the whole east area.

Defend yourself and be aware, since a single man loose in our life is a huge loss, but don't be hypocrite.
Is US that wanted to be their enemies. Expect some bomb here and there, we asked for this so loudly that we are finally "gifted" with the luxury of be in a first line war.

There's nothing worse of feels ourselves totally innocence.
Realism, guys. You can't fight a war with fantasies and illusions.



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you are a ***** moron. comparing a bunch of unarmed civilians being murdered to collateral damage caused by those same cowards hiding behind their population while waging war is not remotely the same thing. when i find your town in game i am going to go full allah akbar mode for being forced to read your stupidity for the last several months.


Uh yeah Ditto on Darwoth.... Flame the jackass that did this was considered a civilian of our country. They were imparted to the same rights and freedoms of living in our country not some soldier fighting on the front lines of a battle field. He is a retarded **** ****** that unfortunately did not get what he completely deserved by just being killed one time. Terrorism and war are two different things. One is fought for purposes of political or resource gain. The other is fought with no other intention then to emotionally scar a population. I am honestly surprised we have not shut our boarders to every single muslim person...
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:14 pm

virtually every "war" on that list would have been considered the equivalent to the national guard restoring order to the watts riots in the 60s, a complete and total non "war" and a minor police action performed by the military (when there was not much of a police force beyond the local sheriff) at best. it is a list made by ***** with an agenda to "prove" how those eeeeeevil war mongering mericans "started it" and nothing more
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby jakhollin » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:26 pm

Darwoth wrote:virtually every "war" on that list would have been considered the equivalent to the national guard restoring order to the watts riots in the 60s, a complete and total non "war" and a minor police action performed by the military (when there was not much of a police force beyond the local sheriff) at best. it is a list made by ***** with an agenda to "prove" how those eeeeeevil war mongering mericans "started it" and nothing more



So you cannot admit that over the course of of American history (like every new nation) we were in conflict the majority of the time. Our early presidents recognized that we had to be involved in many conflicts across the globe to grow an Empire. They also recognized that a better form of Empire was to spread democracy and capitalism instead of trying to completely conquer a nation. We still hear it all the time we are in a war to win the hearts of the people. We have not been doing that very well lately because the eye on the prize which I have a very specific theory on that you would completely disagree with but is probably more of a derail to talk about here.
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:30 pm

i am stating that "the negro wars" and several dozen equivalent nothings that make up over 80% of "americas endless wars" on the list is not a "major war" or a war at all as claimed, thought that was pretty clear by my statement. apparently not and you are just a *******, my sympathies for that.

by the parameters given the blackhawk down fiasco was a "major war", um no. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby jakhollin » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:02 pm

Darwoth wrote:i am stating that "the negro wars" and several dozen equivalent nothings that make up over 80% of "americas endless wars" on the list is not a "major war" or a war at all as claimed, thought that was pretty clear by my statement. apparently not and you are just a *******, my sympathies for that.

by the parameters given the blackhawk down fiasco was a "major war", um no. :lol: :lol: :lol:


What negro wars are you referring to? I do not see one of those on the list. I agree with you despite the article many are not major wars. But they are military engagements. Not some farmer with a pitchfork yelling about someone on his grass. Many of those conflicts they state have multiple battles involved which is the definition of a war... Not saying Americans are war mongers I am saying we are and have been involved in many conflicts since the birth of our nation. No need to be a prick but we both know that is just how you are... BTW I am not sure if you have sympathies for me being an a-hole or a B******....
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:11 pm

jakhollin wrote:
Darwoth wrote:i am stating that "the negro wars" and several dozen equivalent nothings that make up over 80% of "americas endless wars" on the list is not a "major war" or a war at all as claimed, thought that was pretty clear by my statement. apparently not and you are just a *******, my sympathies for that.

by the parameters given the blackhawk down fiasco was a "major war", um no. :lol: :lol: :lol:


What negro wars are you referring to? I do not see one of those on the list. I agree with you despite the article many are not major wars. But they are military engagements. Not some farmer with a pitchfork yelling about someone on his grass. Many of those conflicts they state have multiple battles involved which is the definition of a war... Not saying Americans are war mongers I am saying we are and have been involved in many conflicts since the birth of our nation. No need to be a prick but we both know that is just how you are... BTW I am not sure if you have sympathies for me being an a-hole or a B******....



the negro wars was part of the 38 years worth of rampant american imperialist terrorism in the world shifting "banana wars" of course, an obviously monumental point in history as you well know and a major war worthy of being retold for generations to come, i mean we even sent a few dozen people to haiti during that timeframe which at the time was the biggest deployment of expeditionary patriotism since george washington took a **** in france.

you are completely missing the point in your quest to argue with me, the list is supposed to be "americas 240 years of MAJOR WARS" not "every time the american military got into a slight skirmish with someone" which is what it is actually a list of, and that is all i have said from the beginning.
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Re: i hope claeyt is ok

Postby Flame » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:23 pm

I would actually punch you in the face for several reasons, Darw, but let's try to explaing things in peace.
So calm down.

The reason why you have to see the whole war dynamics is because you have to stop it, or more people will die. You can be surprised by my coolness, but in that way i'm far more usefull than in a "berserk" status.
I would be really easy to surrender to the anger and quite erase a huge part of the world and the **** on it.
But it would not work.

It would not work if i nuke the Usa, that started this mess.
It would not work if i nuke the East, that is anwering with human bombs.

That's just the wrong way to solve the problem.

My only nephews and family are in Rome. My brother is a firefighter, so he will easily fall in a real terrorist attack if there will be one.
All the ones i love most are endangered by unknown men of an unknow religion because Usa did wrong politics for decades. I'm indeed upset. And i'm indeed upset that some dudes from asia prefers to kill us instead to solve the problem in other ways.
I'm not completely aware of what chances they have to defend themselves, but i'm sure that be a kamikaze will not solve their problems.
So both parties are doing ****** things that will lead to nothing good.

All i can do, since i've born in the left side of the world, is try to aim to the right enemy and force people to see the whole picture.

You can still decide that the best solution is War and kill the dudes. Sometimes we just have a few choises, this could be one of that time.
I do prefer that you, and everybody elses, do a choise with the full knowledge of the situation. Stop your rage and start to study the situation with a cold mind, since human lifes are involved.
Wrong or good choise, it depends on our personal beliefh, but a hasty choise could cost many lifes.
So take your time to be sure what you'll move will be from now on.

We are really in war this time. Is no more time to play the "goods" role and let others decide.
Basically, i'm not happy to see you people go in shock at every killing spree.
If you are shocked, you lack of awareness, and i'm indignant by that because people are dying for that lack of awareness.
I don't grant you anymore the right to lack the awareness of the real situation.

You can think i'm cold or "evil", but to me seems that i'm one of the few that actually care to STOP the situation, instead of add wood to the fire to grant more people deaths.

And now the reason why i would punch you: You want to kill me in game.
That's upseting me because you just compared a real dead with a bunch of pixels. Sure, that's nasty for me, but we are talking about serious things here, so i completely don't care about my pixel alter ego in a game and you should see how pointless is that.
Go on and kill my seven months of gaming if this will calm you down and gives me the chance to stop this war a bit, allowing me to talk about Facts and Reality.
This is what can drive me mad. THIS is not an argument where i will accept such immature comparisons.
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