Brussels terror attacks

[Strakknuva225]

The issue is that Islam is a starkly supremacist ideology. It unabashedly, canonically states this in its own pages. Those who do not conform to what is subjectively "right" are divinely mandated to be killed or forced to live in extortionate servility (pay "humiliation tax", accept second-class citizenship, and openly acknowledge that this treatment is righteous). This does not facilitate harmonious admixture, needless to say. People will rail against white supremacy past and present (Western colonialism/expansionism/slavery/economic hegemony/etc.) but defend Islam with a vicious, ironic idiocy.

It is indeed very ironic how western liberals are all over Islam, defending it to the teeth, whilst conservatives absolutely despise the religion.

[Flame]

Before keep argumenting about the ideology, anyone of us have ever read their holy books and have muslims friends?
Because without the real knowledge about how the majority of muslim pratique their religion, we can't be sure that they aren't exactly like us. Afterall, our religion is a starkly supremacist ideology, according to our bible. That's why a book can't cause a war, usually.

I'm fairly sure that with or without the religious glue, Isis would be there at this year in this historical moment. Religion is not the problem, is just a flavor.

The big mass of people leaving their houses and people died in their country are a lot more than the terrorist, and so we can quite say that the majority of muslims aren't terrorist. At this point, it's better to focus what caused them to become terrorist, which indeed is not the religion.
I bet that you can erase all the religion in the world. You would not see any difference, so let's talk about something that makes the difference.

[salemwutwut]

We can't force people to not believe in their gods, but we can try to avoid conflicts or activities that destabilize countries while creating new bad guys in the process. Funny how everyone seems to ignore the only solution for avoiding future conflicts.

[Flame]

A single, unique and strong solution, clearly, is out of our reach. By "our", i'm not talking of coutries but really our, simple people.
Yet... who cares. Have the right idea is usefull when someone, up there, will have the same idea and needs support (basically, Spam XD).
Other than talk, discuss, demolish buggy ideas and generate stronger ideas, we all know that our effective role is almost none.

Anyway i'm curious about hear an idea about how to solve the actual and future situations. I have mine (and i think i've explained them enough, fighting with this english). I would hear yours.
If you can, focus on a solution that Fix the problem from the root. Any mass-destruction or deportation ideas are impossible to realize and bring more conseguences than solutions in the long term. XD

[An_Infinity_of_War]

I have read the Koran; twice. I can safely say I burned it to remove its disgusting self from my presence. It does nothing but act similar to the Torah, except far far more parasitic and violent. The only thing close they have to a new testament is Westernized Muslims who cherry pick the same as Christians.

This does not come down too different peoples, but a clash of two cultures. One is inferior and is being imported by Communists at the expense of those, while extremely few, coming to Europe. As a majority of there only for the welfare.

Edit for Claeyt.
Hows it feel to know no one cares about you screaming racism?

[Argentis]

I have read the Koran; twice. I can safely say I burned it to remove its disgusting self from my presence. It does nothing but act similar to the Torah, except far far more parasitic and violent. The only thing close they have to a new testament is Westernized Muslims who cherry pick the same as Christians.

This does not come down too different peoples, but a clash of two cultures. One is inferior and is being imported by Communists at the expense of those, while extremely few, coming to Europe. As a majority of there only for the welfare.

Edit for Claeyt.
Hows it feel to know no one cares about you screaming racism?

Have you read the Bible? It's also a terrible and awful book promoting slavery, proselytism, violence against non-believers, and more. I agree that the Koran is probably worse but let's face it, all religions are awful moral systems for people who take the words of their holy books literally.

[Inotdead]

Have you read the Bible? It's also a terrible and awful book promoting slavery, proselytism, violence against non-believers, and more. I agree that the Koran is probably worse but let's face it, all religions are awful moral systems for people who take the words of their holy books literally.

That's why he mentioned cherry-picking.

And in that Infinity is precisely right. Sure Islam works as peaceful religion - just act as if all the supremacism, expansionism, violence and segregation were not there.
Kinda like Christians do, especially regarding the Old Testament. Only it would probably take a bit more effort.

[An_Infinity_of_War]

Comparing how many non-violent Christians and Muslims are is simply arguing semantics. Comparing cultures are far better as a majority of Christians are Western; thus cultured far better. We can argue religion is useless but it plays a good role in keeping people submissive to the State as well as keeping the culture of said state/society solid.

In the end if it keeps a strong family system in place that is all that matters. Currently that is at an all time low. Not enough Christians breeding and having two children as a minimum equates dropping population. This allows for culture to be destroyed as they hold no majority in society. Hence massive refugee intake as the Government fears lack of tax in future decades and thus uncultured swine coming and bombing there homes and businesses. The refugees would be better in their own homelands as they are needed for rebuilding said homelands. Who will rebuild Syria? Its citizens or its rebels? I'd hope its citizens would as they appreciate it and its culture more than rebels.

[Argentis]

Comparing how many non-violent Christians and Muslims are is simply arguing semantics. Comparing cultures are far better as a majority of Christians are Western; thus cultured far better. We can argue religion is useless but it plays a good role in keeping people submissive to the State as well as keeping the culture of said state/society solid.

In the end if it keeps a strong family system in place that is all that matters. Currently that is at an all time low. Not enough Christians breeding and having two children as a minimum equates dropping population. This allows for culture to be destroyed as they hold no majority in society. Hence massive refugee intake as the Government fears lack of tax in future decades and thus uncultured swine coming and bombing there homes and businesses. The refugees would be better in their own homelands as they are needed for rebuilding said homelands. Who will rebuild Syria? Its citizens or its rebels? I'd hope its citizens would as they appreciate it and its culture more than rebels.

I'm not really comparing. Just expressing my opinion that religion is ****** no matter its denomination.

[Inotdead]

I'm not really comparing. Just expressing my opinion that religion is ****** no matter its denomination.

That's a bold statement and I have to disagree. To me making religion a scapegoat sounds like blaming guns for murder. Sure you could grab your trusty rifle and blow someone's brain out, doesn't mean you should.
Likewise there is nothing ****** about religion if it gives you peace of mind. It only takes a little bit of thinking to understand, that firstly not everything was meant to be taken literally, and secondly that the Holy Books dubbed as law codex's at the time, meaning for human laws as well. Since the society and our understanding of human nature and human rights changed a lot in the meantime I guess those would be inappropriate.
Granted, the flipside is that religion makes it easier for people who do not want to think for themselves to keep on doing just that.
But in the same way a carpenter's hammer makes the job easier for someone with the intent to break some sculls - the tool is hardly to blame.