Brussels terror attacks

[Darwoth]

it is hilarious to me that the muslim invasion is among the most serious issues happening all over europe for the europeans living there but since claeyt wants to break out six year old piegraphs that were never accurate to begin with (kind of like how the census here was shuffled so that it now classifies over half of the hispanics as "white" to conceal the effect the anchor baby problem has had) it is a non issue and but a minor footnote.

first of all those statistics were never accurate even when they were taken over half a decade ago, secondly middle eastern muslims breed at an extreme rate like any other parasitic organism and birthrates for the natives to the countries in question have fallen. this means that with the aging native populations and the fact that statistically every muslim currently there is projected to grow 5 fold the writing is on the wall and western europe will be unrecognizable within two generations.

[Claeyt]

it is hilarious to me that the muslim invasion is among the most serious issues happening all over europe for the europeans living there but since claeyt wants to break out six year old piegraphs that were never accurate to begin with (kind of like how the census here was shuffled so that it now classifies over half of the hispanics as "white" to conceal the effect the anchor baby problem has had) it is a non issue and but a minor footnote.

5 year old numbers are the most recently available census figures. As for the Census here in America, you are lying. People choose what they want to be called. If they put Hispanic on their census forms then they're counted as Hispanic, if they put White on it then they are counted as White.

first of all those statistics were never accurate even when they were taken over half a decade ago, secondly middle eastern muslims breed at an extreme rate like any other parasitic organism and birthrates for the natives to the countries in question have fallen. this means that with the aging native populations and the fact that statistically every muslim currently there is projected to grow 5 fold the writing is on the wall and western europe will be unrecognizable within two generations.

You are lying and exagerating. For the Muslim population to increase 5 fold each couple would need to have 10 children. That is not happening.

Again, it will take 400 years for Europe to be 51% Muslim at the current rate of immigration.

There are 430 million people living in the Middle East and North Africa. There are 740 Million people living in Europe (This does not include Russia).

[Darwoth]

as per the norm "nuh uhhhh your a liar" chirps the peanut gallery.


the issue with the american census is not a new one and has been around since the mid 80s the first time the boxes were expanded to redefine the definition of "white", this was also applied to various other racially tracked statistics around the same time such as numerous standards of learning tests throughout the public school system.

and yes, 10 divided by 2 is 5 you stupid *****, thank you for reiterating what i said previously. every muslim in europe today willl have turned into 5 by the time the current birth cycle reaches adulthood, more if you factor in things like converts or muslims wedding non muslims.

[Claeyt]

:lol:

as per the norm "nuh uhhhh your a liar" chirps the peanut gallery.

the issue with the american census is not a new one and has been around since the mid 80s the first time the boxes were expanded to redefine the definition of "white", this was also applied to various other racially tracked statistics around the same time such as numerous standards of learning tests throughout the public school system.

and yes, 10 divided by 2 is 5 you stupid *****, thank you for reiterating what i said previously. every muslim in europe today willl have turned into 5 by the time the current birth cycle reaches adulthood, more if you factor in things like converts or muslims wedding non muslims.

It still gives the option and count of White European, White Hispanic or Non-White Hispanic. This isn't complicated.

Muslims in Europe aren't having 10 kids.

They generally match those of their adopted European countries with slightly more than the average in general. As for the growth rate in the Middle east even that's not 10 kids per woman. It's more like 3 kids per women overall across the middle east. Saudi Arabia, the gulf states and Iran all have birth rates similar to Europe. Abortion is legal in Iran and easily attainable. Egypt has one of the highest rates at 3.8 kids per woman but over the last 30 years birth rates are way down in the Middle East.



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[Darwoth]

claeyt has argued with me for over 3 years about everything and has been proven wrong time and time again, claeyt selects random pictures from random websites that have numbers and lines on them yet his numbers and lines do not support reality.

claeyts numbers and lines also like to ignore that muslims in the countries he cited are fond of more than one wife. precisely for the reason they can father more children faster before they get killed in an airstrike or blow themselves up in a shopping center.

[Rubberduckbandit]

**** like this only strengthens the almighty trumps viewpoint on muslims, and terrorism.
our great lord will save us from this mudslime and plague.
USA USA USA

[Flame]

Uhhh... do you guys know that graphics are useful only for who have a huge knowledge of that argument? Otherwise are only sterile numbers, good for a picture fight that could generate around 40-45 pages, without accomplish anything.
Indeed graphics are useful, but only when one have the general knowledge of that territory and what those numbers actually means, compared with other graphics.
This will end into a massive amount of useless pictures.

Anyway, someone asked me for a "solution". When someone asks a solution to a common civilian, instead of ask it to a big man, is obviously a way to gain advantage in a discussion in order to deny everything he could say after the request.
Even if i asked HIM to read, study and bring me proof of my incoherency (which i bet i have a lot), he preferred to ask me to destroy myself in this childish trap.
So, here come my general plan:
This situation have been build in ages. We "Occidental" built the mayor part of it. We now have to handle the immediate danger that we caused, BUT also learn how did we built this. So, next time, we can see clearly when this is going to happen again, and obstruct this stupid plans a bit.
Is it going to work?
Oh, absurd! Democracy have never worked since the beginning (but yet we vote, thinking it's better than nothing).
Is this a better plan than rage around completely brainwashed by any media?
Uhmm, yeah.
Imho, a well acculturated population is a lot better than a brainwashed mass. At least, i should not fear that the whole europe army will erase a culture with the terrorism excuse, or fear that Europe fell under some extremist politic faction, or religious faction.

So yes.
The plan is to Know More and gain the ability to Look Forward. This will help you to be a bit more human, a little bit less a toy.
You can always choose to close your eyes, your ears and go in the street like a wooden puppet, but i would prefer to see a man without a power and with knowledge, than a man without power and without knowledge.
Today your enemy is A. Tomorrow will be B. If you're ignorant, neither A or B have any difference, and you're a perfect weapon. The best human weapon is the one that don't suspect in any way that, maybe, things are not what he thinks are.

Do you think this plan is that bad, afterall?
Remember, i'm from Italy. Here there's no illusion about how democracy is a joke and we don't have any power to accomplish any plan. Maybe 'cuz Mafia is a cancer that despair us in corruption, or maybe because all our requests to politic dudes ended into nothing, but indeed i don't think we have any Real Power in this "democratic" world.
That's why my plan is mostly about what we can actually accomplish, which is Ourselves.

Call it self-esteem, but die as a puppet is a lot worse than just die.
So that you, or who like you, will not help to join or will not join himself an extemist politic faction against all muslim, or next year against all islamist and so on. Simply because you gained the will to learn&study, before decide.
To make it clear, you can study and come back to say me "I ***** disagree with you! I like more my plan, than yours!" but if you Know, you can Decide.
At that point we can be enemy maybe, but yet you have my respect as a Human.


Phew, dude. English is a bit hard when one have to write philosophical-politic-social matter.
Don't waste my effort, come back when you have a bit of knowledge more, in order to destroy me permanently.
Let's make this discussion productive.

[Claeyt]

Phew, dude. English is a bit hard when one have to write philosophical-politic-social matter.
Don't waste my effort, come back when you have a bit of knowledge more, in order to destroy me permanently.
Let's make this discussion productive.

You could always just draw some cutting, blistering political cartoons to make your point. Those are huge over here in 'Murica.

[Inotdead]

DON'T LET THEM USE FEAR AND EXAGGERATIONS TO MAKE YOU THINK WITHOUT RATION OR COMPASSION.

It's easy for you to say with your overblown sense of security.

It reminds me of the time when I used to live in a place without any kind of functional service regarding stray animals. So there were stray cats and dogs all over the place. Naturally some people were not very fond of that, stray dogs could pose serious danger when they formed packs, rabies is no joke, and, well, piles of **** around your home are hardly pleasant as well. So they would take matters in their hands and kill strays themselves. Either physically or by leaving poisoned treats. Needless to say that did not include disposing of corpses.
Now I personally don't approve of that, I like animals. I felt sorry for them. And there were also a lot of people who liked animals more than I, who may be fed the strays or may be simply had pets who unjustly suffered from poison left in such manner. Naturally they were outraged when they learned of that.
Yet strangely enough, many of those people, who were burning with righteous sense of justice, who would stand to defend poor animals from inhuman abuse would change their mind once their kid was mauled or bitten or contracted rabies on their way from school.
Eventually the matter did reach someone from higher ups who felt responsible enough to resolve the issue in a more clean and professional way, but the precedent remains.

So my question is - how many women need to be harassed and raped? How many people need to be killed? How many buildings destroyed?
What you fail to understand with that whole migrant issue is that it doesn't take a majority to stir up trouble. Yes, may be most of them are normal people.
Yet some of them are not. And, if it makes it easier for you to understand, it has less to do with their ethnic or religious background, and more with political organisation they affiliate themselves with.
It makes perfect sense for me to make at least some attempts at background checks. And I cant argue with US policy who does those thoroughly.

[Flame]

Today is too much common to hear people raging against someone, than to read a productive discussion.
I agree with what you say. A pack of stray dog is dangerous and must be prevented. I disagree with the method. A pack of corpses is more dangerous than stray dogs itselves (water, other animals, food, childs).
That's why personal justice is stupid. It don't own the power/organization to handle the consequences.

That's why i'm not against refugee deeper control, but sadly this have turned into a civilians more controls.
For every bite of cake you get, there's an unwanted salt rock in it. They had no need to alterate my freedom, but that was a chance they could not let go, so they did it.

Here come the "fight against enraged people". To let that people see what's beyond their rage, or fear.

Keep calm and watch out from traps. Too much often a law is a trap for you, instead of a gain. If you stay cool, you can see it clearly and try to change it. And fail, but that's fine, still better than blindness.