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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Strakknuva225 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:51 pm

saltmummy wrote:Aum Shinrikyo. A religious "doomsday" sect in japan. Released saren gas into subways. Considering the death count of other saren gas related attacks, the Tokyo subway attack and matsumoto incident were relatively minor. My chemistry teacher told us that the amounts of saren used were small, and while subway tunnels are really rather tight and enclosed environments, the volume of gas was easily dispersed and somewhat neutralized, generally just making people who were at the locations sick instead of killing them. Aum Shinrikyo is split up into two groups now, but all this to say no, not all terrorists are muslim.


Like I said, I fully acknowledged that I jumped the shark by saying that all terrorists are muslim. But still, a very large majority are islamic extremeists and in comparison the frequency of islamic terrorism is astronomically high in comparison to other groups, some of whom don't even achieve their goals and even if they do, the damage they do is comparitively tiny.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Dallane » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:22 pm

saltmummy wrote:Aum Shinrikyo. A religious "doomsday" sect in japan. Released saren gas into subways. Considering the death count of other saren gas related attacks, the Tokyo subway attack and matsumoto incident were relatively minor. My chemistry teacher told us that the amounts of saren used were small, and while subway tunnels are really rather tight and enclosed environments, the volume of gas was easily dispersed and somewhat neutralized, generally just making people who were at the locations sick instead of killing them. Aum Shinrikyo is split up into two groups now, but all this to say no, not all terrorists are muslim.


That is sooooo 1990s.

Modern terrorist are muslim.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Strakknuva225 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:34 pm

Dallane wrote:
saltmummy wrote:Aum Shinrikyo. A religious "doomsday" sect in japan. Released saren gas into subways. Considering the death count of other saren gas related attacks, the Tokyo subway attack and matsumoto incident were relatively minor. My chemistry teacher told us that the amounts of saren used were small, and while subway tunnels are really rather tight and enclosed environments, the volume of gas was easily dispersed and somewhat neutralized, generally just making people who were at the locations sick instead of killing them. Aum Shinrikyo is split up into two groups now, but all this to say no, not all terrorists are muslim.


That is sooooo 1990s.

Modern terrorist are muslim.


A modern terrorist connexion.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Flame » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:19 am

Name me every single fight in the world.
Once you've shown us that you own this knowledge, i can trust that you know all the terrorist actually active in this planet. And so trust your words.

Whith you, i mean You Dudes.

Otherwise, "all the terrorist that you care about, are muslim."
Which is a lot different.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Strakknuva225 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:28 am

Flame wrote:Name me every single fight in the world.
Once you've shown us that you own this knowledge, i can trust that you know all the terrorist actually active in this planet and trust your words.

With you, i mean You Dudes.


Euskadi Ta Askatasuna, inactive.
Irish National Liberation Army, inactive.
Catholic Time Terrorists, it's a sham and a meme.
Other Irish seperatist groups are inactive also.
Pro-Russian Ukrainian seperatists are obviously very much active, but based in Ukraine and conflict there doesn't affect Yurop. (yet)

Those are the relevant terrorist organizations in the 2000s that aren't islamic groups.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby tack » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:35 am

dont like to disagree with you Strakknuva225 but not all irish natonalist groups or loyalist groups are inactive
there are lots of little splinter groups of the old IRA stll active they just dont have the masive funding boston used to give the old IRA also there are splinter groups of the old UDV active the difference is they are more into low level Knee capping than big attacks.
most of Europes old terror groups are still there they just dont do the big bang stuff anymore.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Strakknuva225 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:47 am

tack wrote:dont like to disagree with you Strakknuva225 but not all irish natonalist groups or loyalist groups are inactive
there are lots of little splinter groups of the old IRA stll active they just dont have the masive funding boston used to give the old IRA also there are splinter groups of the old UDV active the difference is they are more into low level Knee capping than big attacks.
most of Europes old terror groups are still there they just dont do the big bang stuff anymore.


At that point, what those splinter groups do falls under crime and not terrorism, since it wouldn't be on the scale to be, well, terrorism.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Flame » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:06 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... ist_groups

There are quite a bit more.

Now that you have a list, you can certainly look by yourself that we have a decent amount of islamist, muslim, politic factions, cult, nationalist terrorists.
All of them are active.
Almost none of them are in our all-day list.

All we know are the various parts of the muslims ones. We don't care if muslim and islamist are in an inner fight, bringing a massacre where no muslim or islamist is innocent. All we care is help our allies, which aren't the muslims (terrorist or civilian, no distinction).

When we joined the fight, we wanted to be hated.

Even so, though, no one of Isis group have the power to conquer a government. No one is fighting in the road, attemping a coup dedat. That's because they have no army, no money for that.
Turkey people were fighting in the town. Isis is not. We didn't cared about turkey people, even when they were having a war just a red line afar from us.

Forgive me if i'm not shaking my legs in fear. I'm just realistic and i will not see a small group like a Huge Beast Of Conquer.

Also, the only thing one should do right now is Study. If our live is endangered by unknown people from elsewhere, we have the duty to study who they are, why they hate us, how can we prevent this next time, what's have been done wrong in these years.
I'm sure this is everybody interest, because we failed once, we can fail more. Learn why all of this happened here, now, in 2016, is a must if anybody of us wish to bring a future to our childs.
Terrorism can be fight.
Politic moves can be repeated, bringing more terrorist against us.

What do you fear most?
Imho, i fear what's beyond my power, what betrays me every time, endangering my life in my house. Which is the wrong politic.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby Strakknuva225 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:32 am

Flame wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups

There are quite a bit more.

Now that you have a list, you can certainly look by yourself that we have a decent amount of islamist, muslim, politic factions, cult, nationalist terrorists.
All of them are active.
Almost none of them are in our all-day list.

All we know are the various parts of the muslims ones. We don't care if muslim and islamist are in an inner fight, bringing a massacre where no muslim or islamist is innocent. All we care is help our allies, which aren't the muslims (terrorist or civilian, no distinction).

When we joined the fight, we wanted to be hated.

Even so, though, no one of Isis group have the power to conquer a government. No one is fighting in the road, attemping a coup dedat. That's because they have no army, no money for that.
Turkey people were fighting in the town. Isis is not. We didn't cared about turkey people, even when they were having a war just a red line afar from us.

Forgive me if i'm not shaking my legs in fear. I'm just realistic and i will not see a small group like a Huge Beast Of Conquer.

Also, the only thing one should do right now is Study. If our live is endangered by unknown people from elsewhere, we have the duty to study who they are, why they hate us, how can we prevent this next time, what's have been done wrong in these years.
I'm sure this is everybody interest, because we failed once, we can fail more. Learn why all of this happened here, now, in 2016, is a must if anybody of us wish to bring a future to our childs.
Terrorism can be fight.
Politic moves can be repeated, bringing more terrorist against us.

What do you fear most?


Imho, i fear what's beyond my power, what betrays me every time, endangering my life in my house. Which is the wrong politic.


A majority of these are either inactive, too small to be an actual threat or they aren't a concern for the western world. The ones that do operate are the islamic fundementalist ones, since the religion basicially pushes people into these groups.

First, the government should be concerned with taking care of it's own citizens, before aiding those outside. I'm not sure what you mean by "When we joined the fight, we wanted to be hated." but alright.
If I were to join the military, I'd join because I wanted to be hated, not because I wanted to protect my homeland.

ISIS doesn't have power? I'd say they've got moderate power within Syria, where they're in conflict between the government. If it wasn't for Russian intervention, then the situation would be worse for the Syrian government.

Study? What more is there to study about the people who cause these attacks, other than : They are islamic fundementalists. Their religion pushed them to attack us, because the western world is what should be reason for jihad within their religion. There is no sure-fire way to prevent this, but there are ways to help in prevention. Europe's borders were very lax before the attack on Brussels and with the tremendous amount of people who were coming in, the borders were finally closed. Now, background checks are done on most of these people and those who came here illegaly were sent back. Actual refugees would be kept.

And for your comfort, you're more likely to get run over by a drunk than get killed by a terrorist. And even the chance of getting ran over by a drunk is slim.
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Re: Brussels terror attacks

Postby DeepSixed » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:36 am

Procne wrote:What exactly would Trump do to prevent stuff like this?


Pretty simple

He'd threaten to make a tax-free return of all corporate and personal monies abroad back into the US... if you don't 'toe my line'...

The many Trillions US dollars floating abroad by rich US citizens trying avoid harsh penalties in the US... if they could return all that wealth to the US w/o penalty... (and the EU would LOSE trillions of investment monies)...

Yeah... I think EU would grovel at Trump's feet and do pretty much whatever he wanted. Period... Here ends the EU as an independent entity.
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