Key backups with an alt

[JohnCarver]

and make raiding less attractive

Definitely not the direction we want to go at the moment.

[Fidgety]

So I bump with another question.

I was just today before the crash, going to make a couple of spare master keys for my alt to look after.
I noticed that the master key requires the key you want copying as an ingredient. The end product is 2 spare master copies of the key. I don't want 2 spare master keys so that was a bit stupid.
I thought a while back anyway, well what's the point of having master keys anyway? You can just use a standard key as a master to keep on your alt and only keep slave keys on you. So, I went to craft a slave key, same thing, only it creates 6 copies of the key in question when the ingredients are made. So for my 2 gate keys, I can get 6 copies each when I only need 1. Seems a bit in favour of people with towns imo.

Or, is it that the key you want copied, is not in fact the key you use in the ingredients list? I obviously cant get on the game to test with the server down and all.

Also, is a master key able to copy multiple keys? Like a skeleton key, if you know what that means. It will open multiple locks? So I would in fact only need 1 master key to open my 2 gates with different locks on.

Damn wiki is useless for explaining things.

[NeiroShop]

Silly Ramble

So I bump with another question.

I was just today before the crash, going to make a couple of spare master keys for my alt to look after.
I noticed that the master key requires the key you want copying as an ingredient. The end product is 2 spare master copies of the key. I don't want 2 spare master keys so that was a bit stupid.
I thought a while back anyway, well what's the point of having master keys anyway? You can just use a standard key as a master to keep on your alt and only keep slave keys on you. So, I went to craft a slave key, same thing, only it creates 6 copies of the key in question when the ingredients are made. So for my 2 gate keys, I can get 6 copies each when I only need 1. Seems a bit in favour of people with towns imo.

Or, is it that the key you want copied, is not in fact the key you use in the ingredients list? I obviously cant get on the game to test with the server down and all.

Also, is a master key able to copy multiple keys? Like a skeleton key, if you know what that means. It will open multiple locks? So I would in fact only need 1 master key to open my 2 gates with different locks on.

Damn wiki is useless for explaining things.

As much as i like helping a new player this post annoyed me.

A) the Master key is a MASTER key. It only opens locks attuned to that Key or the copies of it.

B) Master copies are essentially the same as the master key. Hand theese to your alts for safe keeping.

C) The slave copies are essentially the same as master key with some restrictions. You cant swap locks with a slave key for instance. The reason you get 6 copies of keys is simple. 1 iron bar isnt just 1 or 2 small keys.


There is no Skeleton keys. Be happy because if so Raiders would have them and come visit everyone they wish.

You can only copy Master key & its Master copies not slave keys.

Also this is a MMO. Yes Towns are favored.

[Fidgety]

Silly Ramble

So I bump with another question.

I was just today before the crash, going to make a couple of spare master keys for my alt to look after.
I noticed that the master key requires the key you want copying as an ingredient. The end product is 2 spare master copies of the key. I don't want 2 spare master keys so that was a bit stupid.
I thought a while back anyway, well what's the point of having master keys anyway? You can just use a standard key as a master to keep on your alt and only keep slave keys on you. So, I went to craft a slave key, same thing, only it creates 6 copies of the key in question when the ingredients are made. So for my 2 gate keys, I can get 6 copies each when I only need 1. Seems a bit in favour of people with towns imo.

Or, is it that the key you want copied, is not in fact the key you use in the ingredients list? I obviously cant get on the game to test with the server down and all.

Also, is a master key able to copy multiple keys? Like a skeleton key, if you know what that means. It will open multiple locks? So I would in fact only need 1 master key to open my 2 gates with different locks on.

Damn wiki is useless for explaining things.

As much as i like helping a new player this post annoyed me.

A) the Master key is a MASTER key. It only opens locks attuned to locks attuned to that Key or the copies of it.

B) Master copies are essentially the same as the master key. Hand theese to your alts for safe keeping.

C) The slave copies are essentially the same as master key with some restrictions. You cant swap locks with a slave key for instance. The reason you get 6 copies of keys is simple. 1 iron bar isnt just 1 or 2 small keys.


There is no Skeleton keys. Be happy because if so Raiders would have them and come visit everyone they wish.

You can only copy Master key & its Master copies not slave keys.

Also this is a MMO. Yes Towns are favored.

Really? A newb question, in the newb section about a subject that's not documented properly anywhere I can find annoyed you. I clearly stated I can't get on the game to test for myself.
If it bothers you that much don't bother responding with narky comments and leave the answering to other members of the forum who don't feel inclined to pull people down.

And if you are going to state how simple this is, don't post answers that are trash in themselves.
A) the Master key is a MASTER key. It only opens locks attuned to locks attuned to that Key or the copies of it.
pfft

[Lansett]

So, I went to craft a slave key, same thing, only it creates 6 copies of the key in question when the ingredients are made. So for my 2 gate keys, I can get 6 copies each when I only need 1. Seems a bit in favour of people with towns imo.

Because the slave keys are not meant for an hermit. It's for town citizen usage.

I don't want 2 spare master keys so that was a bit stupid.

Actually you do. The keys that you want on all of your chars are exactly those "spare mater keys".

and only keep slave keys on you

There is no reason to do that if you're the owner of your claim. There is no downside about using a master key on you. It can't be used for anything by a griefer if it's stolen.

Also, is a master key able to copy multiple keys? Like a skeleton key, if you know what that means. It will open multiple locks? So I would in fact only need 1 master key to open my 2 gates with different locks on.

No. But I don't know why would someone want to have different keys for some of his doors.


It's more simple than you think :
Just copy your master key to give one to each of your characters. Forget about slave ones.

[Fidgety]

So, I went to craft a slave key, same thing, only it creates 6 copies of the key in question when the ingredients are made. So for my 2 gate keys, I can get 6 copies each when I only need 1. Seems a bit in favour of people with towns imo.

Because the slave keys are not meant for an hermit. It's for town citizen usage.

I don't want 2 spare master keys so that was a bit stupid.

Actually you do. The keys that you want on all of your chars are exactly those "spare mater keys".

and only keep slave keys on you

There is no reason to do that if you're the owner of your claim. There is no downside about using a master key on you. It can't be used for anything by a griefer if it's stolen.

Also, is a master key able to copy multiple keys? Like a skeleton key, if you know what that means. It will open multiple locks? So I would in fact only need 1 master key to open my 2 gates with different locks on.

No. But I don't know why would someone want to have different keys for some of his doors.


It's more simple than you think :
Just copy your master key to give one to each of your characters. Forget about slave ones.

Thanks for answering without nasty comments, I see this question didn't annoy you.

Just 1 more thing, in the process of creating a master or slave key, is the key in the ingredients the key you want copying?
Or can i create a new normal key for the process? Then you take the new master key that's created and right click it on the key you want copying.
This was the main question I was asking in my silly ramble.

EDIT--- I think I have made a mistake here with the bit I boldened above. I have created 2 locks and assumed they would need 2 seperate keys for each lock. I have 2 different gate keys. I Never thought I could attune 1 key to multiple locks. Hence my annoyance over all the keys I would throw away in the process of say making 2 sets of slave keys.

[NeiroShop]

Really? A newb question, in the newb section about a subject that's not documented properly anywhere I can find annoyed you. I clearly stated I can't get on the game to test for myself.
If it bothers you that much don't bother responding with narky comments and leave the answering to other members of the forum who don't feel inclined to pull people down.

And if you are going to state how simple this is, don't post answers that are trash in themselves.
A) the Master key is a MASTER key. It only opens locks attuned to locks attuned to that Key or the copies of it.
pfft

The question in itself didnt annoy me. The way you could only think about things in a self-centered manner annoyed me.

[Lansett]

Just 1 more thing, in the process of creating a master or slave key, is the key in the ingredients the key you want copying?

Yes.

Or can i create a new normal key for the process? Then you take the new master key that's created and right click it on the key you want copying.

No the copy process do not work by right clicking.

So :
- Use this recipe only one time. At least in your case, do not create multiple of theses.
- Then make those as much as needed. For the recipe you've to use a key attuned to you indeed (name is green).
- Before putting a lock on a door make sure you right click your key on the lock.

[Fidgety]

Really? A newb question, in the newb section about a subject that's not documented properly anywhere I can find annoyed you. I clearly stated I can't get on the game to test for myself.
If it bothers you that much don't bother responding with narky comments and leave the answering to other members of the forum who don't feel inclined to pull people down.

And if you are going to state how simple this is, don't post answers that are trash in themselves.
A) the Master key is a MASTER key. It only opens locks attuned to locks attuned to that Key or the copies of it.
pfft

The question in itself didnt annoy me. The way you could only think about things in a self-centered manner annoyed me.

Stop trying to dig out of it and derailing the thread, nothing I posted deserved your attitude.

[Fidgety]

Just 1 more thing, in the process of creating a master or slave key, is the key in the ingredients the key you want copying?

Yes.

Or can i create a new normal key for the process? Then you take the new master key that's created and right click it on the key you want copying.

No the copy process do not work by right clicking.

So :
- Use this recipe only one time. At least in your case, do not create multiple of theses.
- Then make those as much as needed. For the recipe you've to use a key attuned to you indeed (name is green).
- Before putting a lock on a door make sure you right click your key on the lock.

Thanks, You probably didn't see my edit in time. I think that's where my concern for the wasted keys is coming from. I've been attuning a seperate key to each lock instead of making 1 key fit multiple locks.
I didn't think about making say 1 key for a chest room for instance where 1 key can open 10 chests.
If you imagine what I'm doing, I'm going to end up with hella lots of keys to make.